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post #21 of 39 Old 09-17-2016, 12:03 AM
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It sucks that the girl is progressing and enjoying herself more when mom's not around. I've never had any patience for those types who think they know more than the instructor/trainer when they've never been around horses a day in their lives. I don't mince my words ... that's why I don't give riding lessons, I tend to speak before thinking often, especially when my horses are concerned ... but I'd flat out tell this woman that she's getting in the way. Her daughter is progressing just fine without mommy dearest interfering and if mommy dearest can't shut up and listen to the person in charge (which, as it happens, is not her) then mommy dearest can find another instructor. Point. Blank. They're not paying you, so if they don't come it's not like you're going to lose any money, and on top of that this girl could potentially injure herself trying to show off, or injure your horse. I agree that horseback riding is great for kids, but it is a privilege not a right, and if the mother AND the daughter are not going to listen to you then they can find someone else's horse to ruin. I don't tolerate anyone treating my animals improperly - not my parrot, not my horse, not even my snakes.
But that's just me lol

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post #22 of 39 Old 09-17-2016, 08:57 AM
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To deal with mom, maybe the solution is the next time she butts in to see if maybe she'd like to take some lessons....of course approach it in a tactful way.

For the sidepull on a budget, perhaps you can borrow one from somebody?
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post #23 of 39 Old 09-17-2016, 01:37 PM
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There are also those loping halters I think they're called .... just a rope halter with rings on the sides to attach reins. I'm currently riding a colt with one since he's got tooth issues and I love this thing. It's very similar to this one (only not a POS):

http://www.statelinetack.com/item/ba...alter/E002335/

You could also buy some rope and make your own, it's very simple to tie a rope halter once you get the hang of the knots. That'd be a great cheap way to get one.

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post #24 of 39 Old 09-17-2016, 03:17 PM
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This has been a great thread for me to read, so thanks to everyone for the great ideas for dealing with kids learning to ride. Right now the neighbor kids who will soon be joining a 4-H club, which luckily is just starting at the saddle club in our small town, are 10 and 11. Since they have had no experience around horses and are just now starting to get their balance with the bareback lead-line walking on my Little Horse (12-2 Welsh/Qtr pony), I think these marking reins ideas and games to play will be really great as they slowly advance. Then someday if my grand-dtr ever shows interest ....

Also, want to say that I sure admire OP Spec for putting in all this time of her own to allow these kids to enjoy horses. Definitely if that mother does not appreciate what you are doing for her daughter, she is way off base and you will be doing all involved a favor by standing up for yourself, the kids and your horses. Maybe you can practice over the winter how you will say it if you take this up again in the spring. Best of luck at school!
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post #25 of 39 Old 09-20-2016, 03:51 PM Thread Starter
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There are also those loping halters I think they're called .... just a rope halter with rings on the sides to attach reins. I'm currently riding a colt with one since he's got tooth issues and I love this thing. It's very similar to this one (only not a POS):

http://www.statelinetack.com/item/ba...alter/E002335/

You could also buy some rope and make your own, it's very simple to tie a rope halter once you get the hang of the knots. That'd be a great cheap way to get one.

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This is actually exactly what I bought to use, maybe not greatest quality but it's effective, lol! I ride in it myself quite often.

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It sucks that the girl is progressing and enjoying herself more when mom's not around. I've never had any patience for those types who think they know more than the instructor/trainer when they've never been around horses a day in their lives. I don't mince my words ... that's why I don't give riding lessons, I tend to speak before thinking often, especially when my horses are concerned ... but I'd flat out tell this woman that she's getting in the way. Her daughter is progressing just fine without mommy dearest interfering and if mommy dearest can't shut up and listen to the person in charge (which, as it happens, is not her) then mommy dearest can find another instructor. Point. Blank. They're not paying you, so if they don't come it's not like you're going to lose any money, and on top of that this girl could potentially injure herself trying to show off, or injure your horse. I agree that horseback riding is great for kids, but it is a privilege not a right, and if the mother AND the daughter are not going to listen to you then they can find someone else's horse to ruin. I don't tolerate anyone treating my animals improperly - not my parrot, not my horse, not even my snakes.
But that's just me lol

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Oh believe me it takes every ounce of self control that I've got in order to not lose my cool when dealing with her. I have tried gently saying that it would be nice if she would step back and let little girl learn at her own pace, but I definitely think she (the mom) lacks self awareness and doesn't take criticism at all. I have considered "giving up" on numerous occasions, i just feel a little "not right" about punishing the kids for their mother's actions. I never really realized how hard kids can be (unintentionally) on horses. I completely agree with you. I need to lay down the law a little bit here and I think the "riding is a privilege, not a right" is a good way to go at it. Not sure if I'll agree to continue this next summer or not. :/
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This has been a great thread for me to read, so thanks to everyone for the great ideas for dealing with kids learning to ride. Right now the neighbor kids who will soon be joining a 4-H club, which luckily is just starting at the saddle club in our small town, are 10 and 11. Since they have had no experience around horses and are just now starting to get their balance with the bareback lead-line walking on my Little Horse (12-2 Welsh/Qtr pony), I think these marking reins ideas and games to play will be really great as they slowly advance. Then someday if my grand-dtr ever shows interest ....

Also, want to say that I sure admire OP Spec for putting in all this time of her own to allow these kids to enjoy horses. Definitely if that mother does not appreciate what you are doing for her daughter, she is way off base and you will be doing all involved a favor by standing up for yourself, the kids and your horses. Maybe you can practice over the winter how you will say it if you take this up again in the spring. Best of luck at school!
People on here have been so helpful for me though this!
Thanks for your kind words, I really appreciate it. I will do my best!

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post #27 of 39 Old 09-20-2016, 04:34 PM
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Are you crafty at all?

I'm not, but I recently started doing paracord tack and dog leashes and such. This is a bitless bridle that I made for a pony out of scrap paracord. I had two tiny pieces of leather, and I just cobra braided the sides, browband, and then did a four strand braid for the nose piece. The ring are around a dollar at the hardware store, so maybe $4 worth of rings, or $2 if you don't want it to constrict on the nose when pulled, and then maybe $10 worth of paracord or whatever rope you choose to use.

There's tons of videos on youtube on how to work with paracord, so if you watch a couple, then you can know how to join two braids together and tie them off, etc and just make it however you would like.

For what it's worth, I don't let me kids ride in a bridle at all until they are more advanced. Currently they are all riding in a side pull.
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Pssh.I didn't pick up the wrong lead
It's called a counter canter...
...A very advanced maneuver.
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post #28 of 39 Old 09-20-2016, 05:34 PM
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The problem with using a sidepull on a horse with a rider who has rough hands is the nerves in poor horse's nose are taking all that force----there's a reason sidepulls are used on green horses since they can have enough force if in the hands of the wrong rider. Those rawhide nosebands can have plenty of bite if used incorrectly


When DD was just learning to ride, I used a plain flat nylon halter for the horse's bridle since it would have absolutely no bite.
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post #29 of 39 Old 09-21-2016, 12:33 AM
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Oh jeez, sorry Spec, lol foot in mouth again! You see, I speak without thinking ... it's like an illness ... sorry if I offended you. If it works, then it works, and luckily they're cheap enough so if it wears out down the road it'll be a breeze to replace. : )

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Are you crafty at all?

I'm not, but I recently started doing paracord tack and dog leashes and such. This is a bitless bridle that I made for a pony out of scrap paracord. I had two tiny pieces of leather, and I just cobra braided the sides, browband, and then did a four strand braid for the nose piece. The ring are around a dollar at the hardware store, so maybe $4 worth of rings, or $2 if you don't want it to constrict on the nose when pulled, and then maybe $10 worth of paracord or whatever rope you choose to use.

There's tons of videos on youtube on how to work with paracord, so if you watch a couple, then you can know how to join two braids together and tie them off, etc and just make it however you would like.
That looks awesome! I'd love to try to make one myself! Is it too much to ask for you to make a tutorial with measurements and photos? Or at least just extra photos with measurements, then I could figure it out and adjust it for the size I need.

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