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post #1 of 36 Old 06-29-2020, 08:17 PM Thread Starter
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Tummy aches while riding bouncy horse

Me and my weird questions... so my 15 year old daughter is now quite a busy rider. She is doing a dressage program with Harley and preparing him to do some low hunters at a show soon. Meanwhile, she's doing higher jumps with another horse. So she's riding daily, sometimes twice a day.

Problem is, she gets pretty nasty tummy aches. She's tried not riding for at least an hour after eating, to no avail. Even if she rides 5 hours after her last meal, she still gets pretty queasy and uncomfortable riding. Harley is a very bouncy type - he's got that Arab-on-springs gait. So even doing dressage, her stomach is churning by the end of it. She is just doing Level 1 dressage, and working with a coach who thinks her position is quite good. She was even evaluated by a specialist in Rider Biomechanics recently who said she is very good at absorbing the horse's movement, but this is the problem - absorbing all that bounce is leading to a very upset stomach.

She's looking at diet, because we realized she eats a lot of legumes since she's vegan, and that may not be helping. But I'm wondering if anyone has ever had this problem, and what you did to resolve it.
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post #2 of 36 Old 06-29-2020, 08:35 PM
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You'll get better replies than me but my guess is diet. For years I've taken Omeprazole for acid reflux and that helps with stomach problems as well (but I'm 68 not 15). If I were her I would experiment with an activity that causes stomach upset like jogging, riding a bicycle, etc. then diet change. My guess is maybe too much fiber in diet...again... I'm guessing. Good luck!

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Yup...know a few including me who can have issues..
I find if I take and crunch up 1 - 2 antacid tablets it settles my tummy and the acids made splashing about, now churning with the extra activity.
For me that is all it takes...but I'm not a kid and not sure how you feel about OTC medications.
If this is because her body is manufacturing such strong stomach acid then that is a issue to have medical professionals check into.
But...Tums are what I actually use.
They are flavored and not so distasteful so I not gag on them swallowing.
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post #4 of 36 Old 06-29-2020, 08:54 PM
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So if she is riding all the time, was the ever a period when she wasn't riding and didn't have problems? Just making sure its actually the riding, causing a flare up.

I personally dont handle legumes well, they make me bloat to a very uncomfortable level. Gas-x helps a little, but it is just easier for me to avoid legumes. Vegan is different, so idk there.
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post #5 of 36 Old 06-29-2020, 10:03 PM
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living on omeprazole is not a good way to look at things. I have occasional (will, really regular) GERD. That's acid reflux. I have to then take double the over the counter dosage of Nexium. But, it isn't good for the body to be on proton pump inhibitors as a lifestyle.



I would look at her diet, and inquire if there are things she is over consuming, or if there are foods to which she is allergic.
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Nausea? Or side aches?
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post #7 of 36 Old 06-30-2020, 01:09 AM
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I won't get in to my thoughts on a vegan diet. We are omnivores not herbivores. I will say the last place to look for help on a medical problem is the internet by people on a horse forum that are not trained as doctors. Go to a good doctor (gastronomical) and even at that remember that only half of all doctors graduate in the top half of their class.
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post #8 of 36 Old 06-30-2020, 01:34 AM
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@ksbowman - I went to two different doctors regarding two different riding related issues - they both told me to stop riding. So - doctors may not be as understanding of our passions if it’s impacting our health. Not saying it isn’t worth a try, but the prescribed cure may not be what we expect. (There is an old joke “Doctor, it hurts if I do this” - “Well, stop doing it”)

Anyhow, I would stop sitting trot and canter for a while to see if that helps. I am guessing it’s a combination of diet and her age, since she is still growing.
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I won't get in to my thoughts on a vegan diet. We are omnivores not herbivores.
I think you just did.

So first, I really doubt a doctor will be of any help whatsover. As @Horsef pointed out, they have zero knowledge about riding. Don't get me wrong, I have great respect for doctors, but she doesn't have this problem while doing anything else or even while riding other horses. I wouldn't rule out a dietician, however, and we are looking at her diet in an effort to reduce the legumes she eats. Maybe go a day without eating any and see if she still gets a tummy ache.

I don't think it's acid, but something to consider. I wouldn't give her omeprazole, at least not unless we had a diagnosed condition, but I would consider a mild antacid to see if it helps.

This is really a very specific problem related to riding Harley because of his exaggerated bounciness. He looks very elegant, like he's floating on air, but it's hard to ride. When she rides a lesson horse while jumping 2'6", she doesn't have this problem. This is why I thought others in this forum may have had a similar issue. It's kind of like riding a roller coaster for an hour. I've seen dressage horses have this amount of bounciness, and riders look quite still on them to absorb the movement, so I was wondering if anyone has had this issue before, and how they resolved it.
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This is really a very specific problem related to riding Harley because of his exaggerated bounciness. He looks very elegant, like he's floating on air, but it's hard to ride. When she rides a lesson horse while jumping 2'6", she doesn't have this problem. This is why I thought others in this forum may have had a similar issue. It's kind of like riding a roller coaster for an hour. I've seen dressage horses have this amount of bounciness, and riders look quite still on them to absorb the movement, so I was wondering if anyone has had this issue before, and how they resolved it.
Your daughter being vegan is fine. I'd be willing to bet she has a better, more balanced diet than most other riders that I know. I bet she packs lunch for going to horse shows? I sure ate a whole let better at horse shows when I brought my own, plant-based, fresh meals!

However, is she only doing sitting trot? Because I would bet that is the problem if she hasn't been doing sitting trot very much up until this point. Sitting trot can be very hard on certain muscles.

Otherwise, are you sure it's her stomach? Could it possibly be her back muscles bothering her? Or maybe her hips? Or, because I believe she is in the age, her reproductive organs?

My stomach gets upset after particularly tough rides, not because my stomach is upset, but because I have residual pain elsewhere - especially when my hip acts up.

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