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post #1 of 25 Old 09-29-2020, 05:57 AM Thread Starter
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Would you financially share this horse?

I know this is a broad shot so I guess the question is pretty general. I've just taken on a new horse. Late cut 10 YO gelding, very stallion(ey) not that I mind that but he's quite frankly disrespectful. Lots of engrained habits, nipping (anticipating treats) pushing, barging. He needs to be put in check big time and I suspect he's basically a borderline dangerous horse. I've seen him strike out in his stall whilst another horse was next door. He's also overweight and underworked...

He is ridden though it doesn't instil confidence that I myself would want to ride him due to the above. and I'd feel much better taking him through the basics for a month or two. Yes it would be a slow process if I can even do it. Plus, he's a bit of a distance so it's a certain amount of gas getting there and back.

I'm on to my second week with him, and I'm now being asked to make a financial contribution towards his costs by his owner with it. It's a 50/50 thing for me. Whilst I appreciate there's (big!) costs involved with keeping a horse, I also feel I'm having to re-train him for his keeper. Is the keeper being cheeky, or am I just getting up on my high horse (proverbially!)
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post #2 of 25 Old 09-29-2020, 06:16 AM
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Cheeky....you could say that!!

What do you gain for putting life, limb and your time into said animal?
By what you just wrote you don't own...so there must be one heck of a compensation?
Either way...you are benefiting the animal possibly on your dime so the animals owner then has a animal potentially now saleable and for considerably more than a out of shape, no manners, unpredictable, nasty to other other horses, a biter...
Would I pay her?
Heck no, she would be paying me for my time, my knowledge, her horse becoming a solid citizen and something worth more than price per pound on a walking hoof...
She sort of has it backwards...

If he is dangerous, exhibits stud behavior....those are not selling traits many want to own a horse with.
Add fat and out of shape is what the meat guy searches for with glee as one fat horse fills his weight limit better than a skinner does...fact.

So, would I pay the owner to work with and fix problems created and allowed by them...absolutely not.
In fact if they made one more comment of you paying them they would be put in touch with reality as I was walking out the door...
I don't allow myself to be taken advantage of very often and this is far fast falling into that description.

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post #3 of 25 Old 09-29-2020, 06:35 AM
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So, she wants YOU to pay HER to drive a long way to train her spoiled dangerous horse?

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post #4 of 25 Old 09-29-2020, 07:48 AM
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I really understand wanting to work with every horse possible. But... I would not pay to train and condition this horse for the owner.
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post #5 of 25 Old 09-29-2020, 07:50 AM
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Good lord talk about cheek.
"Train my horse and pay me for the privilege."

How ridiculous. They should be paying you.

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post #6 of 25 Old 09-29-2020, 09:38 AM Thread Starter
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Thanks, pretty case closed I guess. Sorry it probably should've been obvious to me that it's a fairly ridiculous situation even if they're only looking for shoes/food money.

I mean, he's perfectly ridable I'm just not sure all the lack of basic manners equates to a particularly pleasant or safe experience despite the owners insistence he's fine...
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post #7 of 25 Old 09-29-2020, 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by fancydonkey View Post
I mean, he's perfectly ridable I'm just not sure all the lack of basic manners equates to a particularly pleasant or safe experience despite the owners insistence he's fine...
So, if he is so great and no issue why is the owner looking for someone to ride and exercise the horse as he is fat and out of shape?
If he is so great why is the owner forewarning you about his nasty biting habit, the fact he strikes in a stall at other horses is one strike from you, the fact he is a disrespectful beast and has no manners...
If you are going to pay to share expenses on a horse make it one you get to enjoy riding, can learn from and become a better rider and one you not have to watch to make sure your own body stays intact and not harmed from such the sweet angel horse he is...
Yea, no...just no.

And a late cut stallion is no excuse either...
I worked with stallions most of my career of one discipline/breed or another...few were ill mannered or biters.
It wasn't permitted, period.
Even a OTTB who was so nasty he was banned from the track, papers taken by the Jockey Club so no breeding, and to keep him alive as a "riding horse" he had to be gelded ...he learned to keep his mouth shut and mind his manners or pay the price...he learned.
What the excuses for this unruly animal are are excuses you should not need to pay to deal with...to many nice animals to share expenses on and enjoy time spent together than this...just no!

Walk away and find a horse who you can safely enjoy...spend your money for the betterment of you enjoying your hearts desire of ride time.
Glad after seeing it in print from yourself and others you are settled on not pursuing this animal.

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post #8 of 25 Old 09-29-2020, 11:12 AM
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The owner should be thanking you for coming out to work with their horse, not asking for money. I would tell them flat out no, but if you want me to keep working with this horse I will, but I'm not paying for it. You could probably part lease a horse that you could actually ride for probably the same cost.
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post #9 of 25 Old 09-29-2020, 11:32 AM
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Ha! Owner was hoping you'd pay for food and farrier work. Well, I'll be. Some people! I'd say they should offer this "opportunity" to someone else.
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post #10 of 25 Old 09-29-2020, 11:46 AM
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Heck, I would let you ride one of my horses for free that I don't have time for. She's a little flighty sometimes but a great fun ride and the more she's ridden the more she settles. Already trained and very respectful.

I would consider it I don't have time to ride them all and someone else has time but no horse. Even deal.

Unless I had a particular attachment to a specific horse, I wouldn't make the deal that these people are coming up with. He's their problem not yours. Ha ha and they want YOU to pay to deal with their problem.

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