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post #1 of 6 Old 04-04-2020, 12:22 AM Thread Starter
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Adjustable albion saddle?

I have a very unfashionable, dinosaur of a dressage saddle that I got very cheaply on ebay because it looked wide enough to fit my horse whose body type is best described as a barrel with a face.

It's an old early 70s looking model Albion dressage saddle, with a very faded HR (herbert rehbein?) and Mansion House logo stamped to the underside of the flap. It seems very well made, the tree is sound, and both my horse and I love it.

While I was conditioning it today, I noticed it had a mechanism in the gullet similar to the marcel toulouse Genesis system. Not identical, since it didn't have any locking nuts on the side of the adjustment wheel, but close.

Now I've never heard of an older Albion having an adjustable gullet. I bought it thinking it was a fixed gullet, and the sellers listing never indicated otherwise. Does anyone have experience with this brand of saddle, or has anyone even heard of an adjustable mansion house albion?

I've heard lots of great things about the old albions, but all of my Google searches for an adjustable gullet model come up empty. I know better than to go bonkers changing the adjustment with every ride, but I haven't heard anything good or bad about this tree. It's almost unnerving having so little feedback on a saddle that is old enough to get a seniors discount. Somebody after all these years must have something to say about this saddle.
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post #2 of 6 Old 04-04-2020, 06:53 AM
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Here's something for you to read.

https://www.albionengland.co.uk/albion-tree-design/
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post #3 of 6 Old 04-04-2020, 07:21 AM
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I love my albion, a really nice, well made saddle. But I know nothing of the adjustment. I hadn't even thought to look when mine was made! Goodluck on finding info.
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I've never come across one either but manufacturers did try screw-adjust trees in the 80s/90s, so maybe the saddle's not as old as you think. Most of these experiments didn't last long because the threads tended to wear, resulting in an arch which moved under pressure. Not good, generally speaking.

Going by my experiences with Thorowgood adjustable arches you could probably check if yours is worn by holding the saddle at the front, one hand each side where the tree points fit into the pockets, and try to move the points together and apart (ie in towards the channel and out again) to see if you can feel any movement.

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I've never come across one either but manufacturers did try screw-adjust trees in the 80s/90s, so maybe the saddle's not as old as you think. Most of these experiments didn't last long because the threads tended to wear, resulting in an arch which moved under pressure. Not good, generally speaking.

Going by my experiences with Thorowgood adjustable arches you could probably check if yours is worn by holding the saddle at the front, one hand each side where the tree points fit into the pockets, and try to move the points together and apart (ie in towards the channel and out again) to see if you can feel any movement.
Well I tried bending my saddles tree points apart, and the arch didn't budge no matter how hard I tried. Even after a 30 minute ride, I didn't get any movement. Seems like the threads haven't stripped yet, lucky me!

Just as a precaution, I may add a bit of thread lock to the mechanism just as a prevantative measure... Sure this might make it a bear to re adjust, but a non adjustable tree is a whole lot better than a broken tree!
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post #6 of 6 Old 04-26-2020, 07:12 AM
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Why not reach out to Albion and ask them for more info on your saddle? I bought an Original Comfort off Ebay earlier this year and was able to find out more info on it through the maker. Worth a try anyway....
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