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post #1 of 11 Old 05-10-2010, 01:51 PM Thread Starter
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Another question...hope I'm not annoying

Ok, so I'm still new to horses, so I'm still learning, so please bear with me.

Anyways, I'm a big fan of front and back cinches being as wide as possible for comfort on the horse, and also for the looks. I also talked with the owner of Master Saddles and he agreed that the wider the cinches the less pressure on the horse. After talking with him I saw this: CACTUS SADDLERY :: Makers of fine, hand-crafted saddles

I haven't seen too many cinches this size, but I know Teskey's also makes a 8 inch flank cinch, so they must be ok IMHO. But my wife who has been around horses her whole life says that she thinks it would bother the horse(she has never used a flank cinch and doesn't like them, BTW). So, I don't know, my horse is ok with the cinch I have, a 4 inch, so I would think the wider would be more comfortable.

My question at the end of my rambling is, has anyone used one of these or know someone who has? And, does it seem to wide and possibly just ridiculous looking? Thanx
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I'm not sure a wider flank/bucking strap would make a difference. It's not supposed to be tight, it's hardly even supposed to touch the horse. You should be able to fit at least your fist between the strap and your horse's side, so "comfort" really isn't any issue. A cinch, yes, but the bucking strap? You can kind of see mine in this photo. I also like the look of the bucking strap, I think it's just incomplete without it, haha.


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That's a beautiful horse, I love horses with blue eyes. And yes, I agree the flank isn't supposed to be tight. I think the guy with Master Saddles idea was that the wider the cinch, when it did have to work it puts on less pressure. Kind of like a seatbelt as wide as a string, or a traditional size, on is going to hurt more if it "snaps" into place, like when roping or riding down a hill at speed, or jumping.

And I do think it does complete the look of the saddle, trying to convince my wife to use one. She got thrown a few monthes back and when it happened I'd swear I saw the saddle go straight up, which a flank would have prevented. But, I guess to each his/her own.

Thanx for the input
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Aww, thanks. I'll be sure to pass the compliments on. =]

Another thing to consider is how it may interfere with your leg. I find if I have to use a significant amount of heel or lower calf on my horse, the bucking strap kinda gets in the way. My spurs will sometimes end up hitting leather instead of horse! I suppose if I rode a horse that acted up, I'd look more seriously at one, but I only use it for aesthetic appeal. =P

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That is true, but haven't had to use spurs yet. The horse that threw her we actually don't have anymore, we traded him for a very calm 11 yo QH, so it is more aesthetic than anything. But, I figure if I did ever need it to work, I don't want it to spook him. The only time my horse has ever acted up was when he got spooked by a plastic bag and kinda crab walked sideways. So I figure if he ever spooks more seriously he doesn't need the flank engaging scaring him more. Just my opinion.
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Okay first IT IS NOT A BUCKING STRAP. It is a rear cinch and the purpose of it is to prevent the rear of your saddle from leaving the horses back then slamming back down if you are doing heavy roping. Second, It should be kept snug. You should at NO time be able to put your fist under it. If you keep it that loose you are asking for an accident. Imagine a large stick running between the horse and your rear cinch while you are riding. Third, wider is not always better. Four inches wide is plenty for a trail horse that is not going to be roped off of. As far as the front cinch, I think a regular width cinch is actually more comfortable if your just riding because it allows the horse a little more freedom of movement and your cinch doesn't have to be as tight as when you are roping. Most beginners over tighten thier cinches out of fear of the saddle slipping.

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Aww, thanks. I'll be sure to pass the compliments on. =]

Another thing to consider is how it may interfere with your leg. I find if I have to use a significant amount of heel or lower calf on my horse, the bucking strap kinda gets in the way. My spurs will sometimes end up hitting leather instead of horse! I suppose if I rode a horse that acted up, I'd look more seriously at one, but I only use it for aesthetic appeal. =P
If your spurs are hitting your rear cinch you need to take them off and get some riding lessons.

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I agree with Kevinshorses on this one--riccil0ve's rear cinch is much too loose. I am only concerned for you and your horse's safety. Please tighten that up a bit so a fly swatting leg or anything else doesn't get caught in it.

I do believe that wider cinches distribute the pressure over a larger area, but as people said in the below thread, that can cause some issues:

https://www.horseforum.com/horse-tack...estions-54611/

Some horse's elbows can rub with a wider cinch, causing more discomfort than a narrower cinch might. Like Kevinshorses said, it shouldn't matter much how wide a rear cinch is--it isn't meant to be tight, but snug. If it is putting uncomfortable pressure on your horse, just loosen it a bit.
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A rear cinch should be snug. If it is not is serves no purpose. The one in the picture is too loose. It should be almost touching the horse. With it too loose it can not do the job it is intended for and also can become a danger.

As to how wide. It depends on what you are doing. If I am using one on a reined cow horse I would use a thinner one as it is only there to keep the back of the saddle from coming up. If I am roping them I want a wider one as it is there to help not only keep the back of the saddle from coming up to be stabilizer it and you also have not pull on the saddle. When I am reining I do not use one at all. No need for it.

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I'm not sure a wider flank/bucking strap would make a difference. It's not supposed to be tight, it's hardly even supposed to touch the horse. You should be able to fit at least your fist between the strap and your horse's side, so "comfort" really isn't any issue. A cinch, yes, but the bucking strap? You can kind of see mine in this photo. I also like the look of the bucking strap, I think it's just incomplete without it, haha.

I think your rear cinch is too long. Only two fingers loose has been my preference. Also, is your reach cinch attached to your front cinch? If not, going uphill can cause your rear cinch to slide back into your horse's flank, turning into a REAL bucking strap. I had that happen once and it was not much fun.

This Navaho friend and his dog show what I like better in rear cinch adjustment. I would even have it a tad tighter, personally


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