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post #1 of 14 Old 11-22-2018, 02:15 AM Thread Starter
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Which bit would you pick of the two?

I was browsing around and got looking at bits. I found 2 I like the looks of. My horse tends to lean a lot on the bit at the trot and lope, we've been working on that. Would either of these bits help with leaning? They are both double jointed bomber bits (I probably won't buy the bomber brand because it's waayy too expensive in $$$) But one has a single roller in the middle and the other has a few little rings.
Note: I know the bit won't solve all of my problems but could either of them at least aid me...

Very first bit that was in my horses mouth was a jointed twisted wire gag bit. I bought a loose ring snaffle as soon as I could. My horse likes the loose ring better than the offset d ring
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post #2 of 14 Old 11-22-2018, 02:28 AM
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flat in the center, not a roller.
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post #3 of 14 Old 11-22-2018, 03:07 AM
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I wouldn't use either, especially not the first one. Smooth is best & I'm undecided as to whether one joint or 2 is generally better on a snaffle. Of course, the horse must make the ultimate decision.

As to helping you stop your horse leaning on the bit, no, I don't believe any bit will do that. It takes 2 to tango, as the saying goes, and he won't lean if you give him nothing to lean on.
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Changing a bit is not the best way to approach the situation when a horse leans on the bit. The best way to deal with this situation is to simply not offer the horse the opportunity to lean on the bit. Here is an illustration.

Ace had the habit of leaning on the bit and running off with riders. The usual approach was to pull harder, circle, or pull his face into the fence to stop him. When I got on, I presented a different approach. Every time Ace tried to lean on the bit, I loosened the reins and told him he would have to support himself. I was not going to hold him up while he ran off.

When Ace found he had no support, he discontinued his plan. He attempted his usual behavior several more times only to discontinue his plan because he had nothing to lean on. Soon, he was trotting and cantering in balance – a much more pleasant ride – and not running off.

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You might also try an eggbutt or D ring snaffle, they tend to be 'steadier' on the tongue and he may prefer that to the loose ring. Ditto TXhorseman's strategy, only working him so that he has to carry himself will get him to quit leaning. Right now he may still be building up the stamina to keep off his forehand. You could try working him over some walk/trot poles to help with that.
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I also agree with @TXhorseman on a solution to the leaning.

If you're really looking at another bit, I find horses prefer a snaffle with two joints over one. I'm a big fan of borrowing bits before I buy, too.
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Changing a bit is not the best way to approach the situation when a horse leans on the bit. The best way to deal with this situation is to simply not offer the horse the opportunity to lean on the bit. Here is an illustration.

Ace had the habit of leaning on the bit and running off with riders. The usual approach was to pull harder, circle, or pull his face into the fence to stop him. When I got on, I presented a different approach. Every time Ace tried to lean on the bit, I loosened the reins and told him he would have to support himself. I was not going to hold him up while he ran off.

When Ace found he had no support, he discontinued his plan. He attempted his usual behavior several more times only to discontinue his plan because he had nothing to lean on. Soon, he was trotting and cantering in balance – a much more pleasant ride – and not running off.
Following this thread as I'm currently shopping for bits...or I thought I was! Reading this answer, sounds like EXACTLY what I need to do."The usual approach" described here is what I've been trying - thank you for the tip, I'm going to try this TODAY.
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When your horse leans on the bit, does he also stick his nose more forward?

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I'm not expecting the bit to solve the problem of the leaning... But to meet me half way.
I have tried letting him have his head but he accelerates as fast as he can and the only place I have to ride him is his pasture which is mostly grass. So when I do let him have full slack in the reins we run into the problem of slipping on grass. But even in an open arena by myself I tried to let him go his speed with slack and he gets too fast and bumpy I have trouble staying in my seat
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I'm not expecting the bit to solve the problem of the leaning... But to meet me half way.
I have tried letting him have his head but he accelerates as fast as he can and the only place I have to ride him is his pasture which is mostly grass. So when I do let him have full slack in the reins we run into the problem of slipping on grass. But even in an open arena by myself I tried to let him go his speed with slack and he gets too fast and bumpy I have trouble staying in my seat
On some occasions, this might happen. If it does, I might need to get on the horse to experiment in order to discover a cause and find the best solution.

But here is something else to consider. Sometimes, we unconsciously signal horses to perform in ways we do not intend.

Be sure you are balanced over your horse’s center of balance. Be sure you are relaxed and letting your legs simply wrap around your horse as a result of gravity rather than squeezing to hold on. Your relaxed and balanced body should be able to follow the horse’s movements better than a tense body.

Then, try the following:

Rather than giving the horse “full slack”, try keeping a gentle following contact if using a snaffle bit. Then, gently squeeze and release you hands while calmly saying, “Eeaassy...eeaassy...” The squeeze indicates that you want the horse to go slower as does the sound of your voice. The release takes away any pressure the horse may use to lean against.

There is one caveat. This approach works best when combined with an overall relaxed approach to riding.

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