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post #51 of 69 Old 07-02-2009, 04:10 PM Thread Starter
 
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^^ It's not my hands that are the problem, it's his mouth..I like to be light-handed with him but can't always do it because he won't listen sometimes.
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^^ Yeah, I'm thinking about just staying with the snaffle, but it's the trail that's the REAL problem...I was thinking about THIS bit for the trail..All I've ever heard about it is good stuff:
High Port Bits
It's a very harsh bit that hits his palate if you touch the rein, you can't use it for bending or flexing, some rein-aids won't work and it'll be very heavy in his mouth even if your hands won't feel it.
I'd stick to a pelham or something if I were you, at least then you won't use the severe part if it's not necessary.


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^^ A pelham is more harsh that that bit! I've heard very good things about this C curb..It has plenty of toungue relief, shorter shanks, and a thick mouth-piece. Any higher ported curb hits the palate so it's not really different from a ported pelham or any other ported curb.
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post #54 of 69 Old 07-03-2009, 08:08 PM
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No, a pelham is less harsh, especially since you can chose never to use the curb effect on a pelham, but on that bit you will always use it.

But you do as you please. That is not a gentle bit tho.


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What is bad about it?
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post #56 of 69 Old 07-06-2009, 06:47 PM
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I've already told you. It's harsh, it will hit his palate and you can't decide wether you want the neck - jaw preassure or not (if you're using a chain, without a chain it's even worse and then you wn't even feel when you pull in his mouth untill you hit his teeth, after it has squeesed the head together)
Just because you can probably find a pelham with a port, doesn't mean tht's the one you were going to use.

But its your decission.
My opiniomn is that shank bits should always be used with a curb, and only when the horses education benefits from it. If they're there for emergency breakes, they should ONLY be used in emergency. Or else there is a huge risk that the horses mouth will be unyielding and need harsher and harsher bits. And to only use a shank at emergency, takes that you have another option for non-emergencies. Pelhams gives you that. Using a snaffle with a bosal gives you that.. lotsof bits or combiations gives you that. But riding with just a shank bit does not.


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^^ Ok, ok sorry. Got carried away. What about a just plain plain ordinary grazing curb . Looks just like that one but with lower port so it won't hit the palate. And a lil shorter shanks I beleive.
I just found out I can't use a bosal because it will actually HINDER a horse's gait. They said a side-pull is better..So that is scratched off.

I'm just a lil confused because a long long time ago I used that bit and he ignored it a lot.

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Actually, I'm down to 4 different things:
1) Mullen mouth pelham
2) Tender Touch
3) Side-pull
4) Grazing curb
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post #59 of 69 Old 07-07-2009, 05:24 PM
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I dunno what a grazing curb is, but any curb will be stronger than necessary in ''non-emergencies'' and risk geting his behavious worse and lead to even harsher bits - if you don't have another option that is not a curb,and that you use as first rein (i.e. use only that as long as he behaves)

A pelham gves you that, or you can use a snaffle together with a curb, or a sidepull together with a curb, or a snaffle with a bosal. The important thing is to never use the heavy reins/harsh bit as long as it's not absolutely necessary but only use the snaffle/sidepull reins.

Or you keep iding with just a snaffle and find out exactly why he doesn't listen before you ride anywhere he might run.

You can of course use any bit you like, I've given my advice and opinios. But it's still just advices and opinions.


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Snaffles do not help a horse's gait. I read it in a gaited book. A grazing curb or some kind of shank WILL. Now you know why I've been talking about curbs. A Bosal flat-out hinders it, so I don't want to take the chance. His gait has been crap lately so I've been working with him in the ring. I was hoping to find a bit that would help we raise his forehand, and set his head back towards the diagonal, but I want him to be able to gait properly with the snaffle he's already got, so we are kinda in a rut.
I suppose a Tender Touch or Mullen Pelham is the answere. I really hate having to use a shank just to help him gait. I wish he'd do it with a normal snaffle.
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