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post #1 of 22 Old 07-16-2018, 02:02 AM Thread Starter
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gaited saddle for tb?

Would a "gaited" saddle, western marketed for gaited horses, be OK for a TB? I am looking for a saddle that has a minimal skirt, can free up the shoulders and doesn't have a ton of leatherworkings. Not sure how the gaited saddles work, but wow are they expensive!!! what price point separates a "bad" saddle from a good one?
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Absolutely! I needed similar traits in a saddle and got a gaited horse saddle with a flex tree and it fit well, stayed in place, had no shoulder interference and was comfy for me as well.
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The way I write some have called abrupt, some call it rude and that is not how this is meant...please read anything I write with that knowledge always...

So.....
I don't pay much attention to what the saddle is "classified" as...
I pay attention to the fit being correct for the animal.
It that means gaited, Arabian, semi, full or something else works best then so be it.
Different brands also have their own "standards" as there are no industry standards in trees I have been told.
So, if the fit fits...use it.
If it doesn't fit, keep looking for one that does.
On that thought...I understand Arabian tree saddles are made shorter for the shorter backed horse and have a flare in the bars and supports of the saddle but have not ever looked into that further...might give you someplace else to look.

As for pricing...you need to use some realistic thinking...
Quality costs money to put together materials and labor...then add profit as companies not make these things to get poor.
I also honestly wonder if it being aimed at a particular, smaller audience the price not reflect that too..
You also pay for names, but have some safety in the fact the name has a reputation.
So if you find a saddle manufacturer with dirt cheap prices and claims of the very best...be wary.
You can also find a locally known craftsman who makes beautiful saddles with good quality materials for much less than some of the larger companies...
Then you can also have the names we recognize and then the names we have heard but rarely can afford. Mostly, you need to find what you can afford comfortably and choose from what they offer...
So, bottom line is if you are looking at $300 for new saddles...be very wary.
If you are looking at $1500 for a new saddle, it should be a lot better quality and constructed from better materials..
If you are referring to the handmade $6000 saddle, then the quality should be exceptional, name recognized as superior work and craftsmanship supplied and better be a custom fit to horse and rider for that cost.
Then the companies most of us can afford are in between...shop carefully and wisely.
Do search for reviews of the saddle manufacturers goods and not just take comments off their website as truth told..

Be a informed shopper.

Best of luck in the saddle search.
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Thanks all! @horselovinguy , that was great material thank you! In all honesty, the price points for western sAddles seem a ton lower than English. I wonder why that is? A circle y Alabama is only 1800 - is that a good price or is that cheap? I’m new to all this. Would love to get a western saddle for my Tb as we leave the English show circuit and focus on just fun stuff. I’ve always wanted a western saddle but the first time I went for a cheap one and I sent it back before even trying it on the horse - it was ew.

Thanks for the help everyone! The site I looked at says gaited saddles tend to have more “rock” - my horse has tall withers but a straight top line and angled back. Would this not be the right tree shape?
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In all honesty, the price points for western sAddles seem a ton lower than English. I wonder why that is? A circle y Alabama is only 1800 - is that a good price or is that cheap? Iím new to all this.

I'm pretty new to the western stuff too.
I think prices for saddles, the Circle Y's are set by the company.
I don't think there is much variation that I've noticed.
When you search around, saddles are within a few $ of each other, some include shipping which raises price.
Circle Y will send a rep to fit your horse at a local tack shop to measure and try several styles of tree to the horse.
Circle Y owns all the components of the saddle from tree manufacturer to pattern to just everything.
They also own Reinsman, Tucker, and High Horse.
You can "custom" any saddle because of this if you are willing to pay for those choices done.

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If you cant swing the Circle Y route heres two outfits I have saddles from that will work with you on your horses needs and yours .
Custom Made Saddles ? J. Stead Saddle Co. 903-217-7560 (Jeremy)
https://www.horsesaddleshop.com/gait...e-saddles.html (Charlie) sells Circle Y"s

I have had nothing but positive experiences dealing with them just MO .
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woah a pure custom saddle for only 2850?! that is a deal!!!!!!!! omg!

@horselovinguy and @Rawhide - what exactly do you call the type of saddle I am looking for? this saddle is what kind i am looking for - super bare bones, very lightweight, with a short tree and in a 15" seat. could they custom make something like this for me?
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Re type, as said by HLG, if it fits, it fits. If it doesn't, keep looking. There shouldn't be any fit difference exclusive to gaited v's 'normal', or any other style. Excepting that Westerns & those built on a Western type tree(x-breeds etc) are longer as per seat size than English/stock, so maybe not appropriate for a... larger rump on a short backed horse. Tho as a general rule that shouldn't be a prob with a TB.

If you're wanting something lighter, you might want to look at Endurance saddles or 'cross-breeds'(aka half-breeds, starting to even be just labled 'Aussie Stock', tho they're a cross between a Stock & a Western).

As for price, it's all relative, like the price of a horse. Looking at the prices people have mentioned here as cheap but decent... Only $1800?? Custom for only $2850?? OMG!! There are low, medium & high priced decent saddles, as with... clothes or anything else. I would consider a decent new saddle could be got from around $600. Less if you want a synthetic one.
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The most important part with a western saddle is knowing what kind of tree will fit your horse. Whatever style of saddle you prefer will be less important than the tree shape and fit. It's impossible to tell from a description what tree would work. Your best bet would be to match the shape of your horse with bendable wire, trace it onto cardboard and take it in to compare with saddles with different types of trees. But also you want to know about your horse's barrel shape, back curve and length.
It is something you have to look at and feel in person...for example, when you say "angled" back you might mean the horse has a very A-frame shape, or you might mean the horse runs downhill from the hind end.

My first impression from your description is that your horse's topline is straight between shoulder and hip. Your question about if a saddle with more rock would fit this back would be no, because more rock means more curve, so would fit a horse that was not straight from front to back, but curved.

In general, gaited horses often have big shoulders, which many TBs do also. But is the "gaited" saddle made for a Saddlebred or TWH, which tend to have higher withers, or for a Paso type, which tend to have lower withers and a barrel that is a similar width from front to back? Or an Icelandic, which needs a very short, wide tree?

Some TBs have high withers but a very wide back. Others have an A frame back.
If I google TBs online, I see high withers, low withers, A frames, super round and wide backs, short backs, long backs, uphill builds and downhill builds. So asking if a TB can wear a gaited saddle is a very non-specific question. Sure, some can. My TB wears a wide Arab tree. His withers are not long, and he has a wide barrel. If I were going to put a western saddle on him, I'd buy one with an arab tree or full QH bars. My friend's TB is very A frame and would fit neither.

For price point, there are many variables. My personal preference nowadays is to buy a used saddle in good condition that was a very expensive saddle when new. Then I can still have the quality but for half price or less.
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If you're wanting something lighter, you might want to look at Endurance saddles or 'cross-breeds'(aka half-breeds, starting to even be just labled 'Aussie Stock', tho they're a cross between a Stock & a Western).
Yeah as a former paso and peruvian owner flat out love some of those saddles . Since I suffer from being a Tackaholic and I buy em when there used in great shape and priced rite like Gottatrot mention I"am always on the lookout for Martin CA Aussie horned saddles /quality tereque saddles / etc . Heres a list besides Tucker of some outfits that sells em in case it interest anybody . Even though some are hornless some makers attempt to add western flair to these type saddles. Just some that come to mind .
Steele Trail Saddles | Trail Saddles by Steele
Tereque Saddles - Sycamore Creek Saddles
https://www.trailridingsaddles.com/ (Allaghany)

From the short list above mentioned I like Steel espeicially their "outlaw trail saddle " had one wasnt useing it (ride mostly in wades ) someone made me a great offer on it and let it go .
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