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post #1 of 12 Old 01-06-2020, 10:45 PM Thread Starter
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Help me fix the rattles in my Bateson Float/Box/Trailer :)

Hi Guys, I have a Bateson Ascot step up float with doors. Like all floats it has some rattles and I have been slowly trying to fix those parts after riding in it down a gravel road and nearly losing my hearing. I have used bicycle inner tube on the chest and bum bars where they slip into their holders and that has made a huge difference but there are some other areas that could do with some work. The middle dividing barrier is removable much like in the Ifor, it rattles a bit where all of the parts connect basically, I don't think rubber would work here as the main noises come from where the pins clip into the panels and I think this would be too tight to add rubber, there is possibly some sound coming from where the centre pole clips into the ceiling too. The little safety chains that clip into the bum and chest bars also rattle, I need to cover these with something that won't slip off, they are quite delicate. All noises individually aren't too bad but once combined on a gravel road crikey!! The barn doors also have their fair share of rattling so if anyone else has a Bateson with the same doors I'd love to know how you find yours. I live in New Zealand and am too far away from the nearest dealer (another Island away) so I need to fix what I can myself. I'd love to hear all your clever tricks. I have included a link to their website with a few picks (sadly nothing close up enough) but maybe it will give you an idea of the general setup :)https://www.batesontrailers.com/shop...orse-trailers/
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Get the manual. Get an impact wrench. Go bolt by bolt and tighten to specifications. Different bolts have different requirements. This is tedious, but very good for the longevity of your trailer.

There are videos on YouTube explaining all of it, from the wrenches to understanding a manual.

I set aside time and do my truck and trailer every couple years. I drive mostly dirt roads.
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Hi Boots, yes I can def do that. It's a pretty new float only been used a few times so hopefully everything is pretty well tightened but I will give it a go. I think the majority of the rattling comes from the inside because there are so many moving parts. I have used heat shrink tubing on the chains and inner tube on the bars which I think will straight away make a big difference, I will go for a ride in it on some gravel tomorrow and see what other noises I can pin point :)
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Also it was on this forum I read that that someones horse likely went deaf coz of how loud their trailer was. It's made me paranoid since esp after seeing some ppl stuff their hoses ears with cotten + a headpiece. I don't know if you're already using it but just something to consider meanwhile....
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post #5 of 12 Old 01-07-2020, 01:40 AM
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I've got a simple stock trailer but the gate that divides the trailer in half would squeak awfully bad when it was locked in the open position against the inside of the trailer. The metal gate was rubbing on the metal trailer walls. I cured that with some of the pipe foam used for insulating pipes in the winter. It will have to be replaced occasionally, but it sure cured that metal-rubbing-on-metal sound! It would squeak with just the weight of a human walking in it so I would hate to think how bad it was going down the road.


I guess that gate is meant to remain closed during travel but I've seen a horse go down and get it's leg caught under a trailer divider and I it was a horrible injury, so I thought it might be safer to leave the divider open. I rarely trailer out and when I do it's only a few miles down the road.


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post #6 of 12 Old 01-07-2020, 11:46 PM Thread Starter
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Yes I have actual horse earplugs which are great :)
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post #7 of 12 Old 01-08-2020, 09:30 AM
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Hi Dakota

One simple thing you can do to reduce rattles, particularly in things like divider and butt-bar hinges and pins is to put them under tension. Just get an assortment of heavy-duty bungie cords and be creative. The object is to "load" the structural parts such that the loose joints are held firmly in contact and so less likely to vibrate/rattle in sympathy with the trailer motion.
Rattles in places like the suspension, floor, and walls are much more difficult to address, but sometimes if you can get some of the very viscus grease designed for heavy equipment into the gaps it will quiet things down for awhile, then you will have to re-apply. Try using a very large syringe with a correspondingly large needle to dispense the grease into otherwise inaccessible areas.
Alas, assuming the trailer design was good to begin with, the rattles are an indication of wear in areas of metal to metal/metal to wood contact, and other than replacing the worn components (often difficult and prohibitively expensive), there just isn't much you can do. Save your money for a new(er) trailer with fewer rattles.

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Hi George, thanks, some good advice in there. It is a pretty new float, I had it imported from the factory and have only used it a few times. It's mainly things like pins where it's metal on metal banging, I honestly don't know why they don't add some rubber or something in the factories to quite them down, I have yet to meet a quite float/box/trailer lol :) The divider has pins holding them in place and there are already some bungies on it (I think they are just designed to help the divider move to the side though when loading and unloading) but I wondered if there was some sort of tough thick rubber or finish like epoxy that I could say put around the edge of the hole the pin goes into so it's metal on that rather than the metal on metal. I'm not sure how well rubber or epoxy would hold up though in that situation, do you have an idea of anything else that might work?
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Hi Dakota

The problem is that there is just enough clearance there for it to move, but probably not enough for any sort of durable bushing. You might try painting the pins with a couple of coats of something like Urethane paint, or a good two-part epoxy, and paint it on thick enough that you have to sand it back a bit to get it to fit in the hole. That will probably last for a little while, but don't expect too much. Easy enough to re-apply, tho, and if you could get a season out of it, it might be worthwhile.
Another thing that might help would be to put some sound adsorbent material around the hinges and pins. Something like a truck inner-tube cut into strips and wrapped around the joint? Maybe a strip of heavy cloth like an old bath towel? Wouldn't stop the rattle, but might absorb some of the sound.
Really, tho using some sort of tension to hold the individual pieces together and thus prevent them from moving around and making noise in the first place would be best, plus it would prevent metal to metal wear from the vibration. Look the interior of the trailer over, get some of the really beefy rubber tie-downs the truck drivers use, and pull the divider hard to the side with one or more of 'em at each pin or hinge. There should be significant resistance to feeling it go "click" when you push/pull on it; that would be tight enough I would think.
The only other option I can think of would be to rework the hinges with a larger diameter steel cylinder and insert plastic bushings for the pins to pass thru. Prohibitively expensive, I would think, unless you can DIY. Try the McMaster Carr on-line catalog for a vast selection of bushings etc. for this sort of home-brew project.
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post #10 of 12 Old 01-12-2020, 12:37 AM
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I found these. I have seen this sort of bushing used in light duty, but never with anything heavy. Still, if there is, or if you can make room to insert some of these it would probably go a long way toward preventing rattles, so I thought I'd pass it along:
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