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post #1 of 16 Old 07-04-2019, 04:03 PM Thread Starter
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Red face input on saddle fit, please

My boy's (draft x) saddle got too wide. He lost some weight since spring (really was too fat). His saddle with draft tree don't fit any more.


So i bought this Dakota 501 FQ roper for 200 on ebay. I think it fits nice. Horse moves good, sweat pattern ist even (there are some parts where he does not sweat as much, but no dry spots).


Any Inputs?


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I would like to see your saddle slid back about 2".
Also used with a thin absorbent pad as possible as to me it looks a nice fit not needing "stuffed" under it.
All in all, a decent fit you have.



I mention moving the saddle back because when I look at the cinch it is not a straight drop down and the cinch and latigo secured is slightly "slanted" which tells me it isn't quite where it needs to sit.
There is a sweet spot to settle in... so close but just far enough away.

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I would like to see your saddle slid back about 2".
Also used with a thin absorbent pad as possible as to me it looks a nice fit not needing "stuffed" under it.
All in all, a decent fit you have.



I mention moving the saddle back because when I look at the cinch it is not a straight drop down and the cinch and latigo secured is slightly "slanted" which tells me it isn't quite where it needs to sit.
There is a sweet spot to settle in... so close but just far enough away.

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Thank you! The last picture shows the saddle after riding, where it wants to sit. If i would move it back more, it would slide forward. Is it still too far forward?
I used a 3/4" Pad liner with blanket on top. I also have a classic equine esp pad, but i think i wouldn't make much of a difference?
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I agree, try a thinner pad if it's wanting to run up onto his shoulders.
I think a 3/4" pad plus a blanket might be too much for the fit it shows without a pad in your pictures.
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post #5 of 16 Old 07-04-2019, 05:13 PM Thread Starter
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I agree, try a thinner pad if it's wanting to run up onto his shoulders.
I think a 3/4" pad plus a blanket might be too much for the fit it shows without a pad in your pictures.
I will get a thinner pad then. Thanks!
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I agree...your saddle is finding its sweet spot after riding. Its "settled"...

I was taught when a saddle is correctly placed the cinch will fall straight to the ground and still stay that path and look when attached and secured.
I don't know if that is a "old-wives tale" or where I learned that but it works.

That thinner pad is all that's needed I bet.
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I agree your horse has an armpit wedgie! All that delicate skin getting pinched and squished. My horse has a full palms width behind her armpit before the girth even begins. Look for shoulder clearance and armpit clearance too! Otherwise they run like their cramped into high heels trying to catch a train haha
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Hi, afraid saddle is way too far forward. It needs to clear the back of the scapula by at least 2"(to allow for cartilage & leg extension. So I'm guessing, from the last(sweat) pic it needs to be at least 4" or so back. Which may then extend onto his hips at the back.
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Hi, afraid saddle is way too far forward. It needs to clear the back of the scapula by at least 2"(to allow for cartilage & leg extension. So I'm guessing, from the last(sweat) pic it needs to be at least 4" or so back. Which may then extend onto his hips at the back.
In the last pic the saddle is behind the scapula! The pad is big, thats why the sweat marks go this far forward. But the saddle didn't interfere with his shoulder when i rode him.
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Ok, pardon, i didnt consider pad with sweat pattern. If the sweat pattern is with that big pad, then it doesn't really show anything about fit. You need to evaluate sweat patterns with a very thin pad - like a towel or such. Still reckon fair bit too far forward tho.

I drew on last 2 pics(*very* roughly & I'm on my fone so tiny pics & scuse the scribble!) On the last saddled pic, the white line shows approx where the leading edge of scapula would be - concho/front of saddle tree not far behind that. It should be at least a couple inches behind the *back* of scapula. *if saddle has flared front to its panels it may fit further forward.

The sweat pic, I marked in white around where I guess scapula & cartilage extension would be, then green line where front of saddle tree should be. **as said very rough. Shud give you the idea tho. But you should be able palpate leading edge of scapula & it's 'spine' which is roughly central, to work out where back of it is, then add at least 1" to allow for cartilage, then at least 1" for leg extension.
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