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post #21 of 35 Old 04-06-2010, 10:15 AM Thread Starter
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honeysuga: haha yea, I can be naive at times.

Love longears: Because we switched bits, for a while remember? Thats what I said previously. And I am doing what works best because as stated before, again, she took advantage of the nice snaffle. And also, as stated before, it was not a shank snaffle, just a regualar old D-ring snaffle.

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Love longears: I forgot to add. I'm kind of confused on what you said. You asked why am I still riding in a snaffle if she's broke enough to neck rein, than told me it doesn't matter what kind of bit it is as long as it works for us both. lol, maybe you can re-word it or something.

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LL- Repeat after me neck reining does not = curb bit, you can neck rein a horse in any bit you could possibly want to use, unless you show then you need to go by showing standards, but she is not showing so a snaffle (shanked((which would be a tom thumb or a broken mouth curb, not a shanked snaffle)) or not) is perfectly fine.

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Honeysuga:Thanks for clearning that one up for me lol. It's allergy season here and they are just hitting me now so I'm off a little today and was quite confused. By the way, I didn't know a shanked snaffle is a tom thumb. Is it necessary to have the chain underneath when using the tom? I've seen some without it but I wasn't sure if it was something that needs to be connected in order to be used the way it's supposed to. She's always had one, I was just curious.

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post #25 of 35 Old 04-06-2010, 04:22 PM
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Pechos, anyone riding in a shank bit without the chin strap knows nothing about bits or horses. The entire purpose of the shank is to give leverage through the chin strap. The only way it is feasible would be if the reins were attached directly to the rings at the mouth piece (if there were any) rather then the ends of the shanks; but that defeats the entire reason to have a shank bit.

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Pechos, anyone riding in a shank bit without the chin strap knows nothing about bits or horses. The entire purpose of the shank is to give leverage through the chin strap. The only way it is feasible would be if the reins were attached directly to the rings at the mouth piece (if there were any) rather then the ends of the shanks; but that defeats the entire reason to have a shank bit.
What I bolded sounded kinda rude....... many english riders might not know about that because they ride with a snaffle........... no offence to you.... :)
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What I bolded sounded kinda rude....... many english riders might not know about that because they ride with a snaffle........... no offence to you.... :)
Not rude if it's accurate. Anyone who uses equipment without knowing how should not be using it. BTW, English riders use shanked bits with chains rather then a strap - think in terms of a Pelham, a Kimberwicke, or a Weymouth. It has nothing to do with an English rider not knowing - it's simply knowledge of your equipment. It's part of the difference between being a rider or a horseman.

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Iride: That makes sense. I always thought if there was those holes where the chin strap should be than it must be there for a reason. Just thought I'd ask. Some things can be so awkwards sometimes when it comes to equipment, which is why I asked. Now tell me, do which bits do you prefer to use? And I'm talking western, I assume you're majority of riding is western which is why I'm askin you. Thank on the bit advice!

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I was originally taught by a member of the US Equestrian team from the 50's and rode English for many many years before switching to Western ~20 years ago.

As for the bit I use, it has a Billy Allen mouth with calvary style shanks to lower the leverage ratio.

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Pechos, it's not unusual to misunderstand bits and everyone needs to learn somehow. I wish the internet was available when I was learning. The thing is to know who to listen to and who to ignore.

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post #30 of 35 Old 04-06-2010, 10:18 PM Thread Starter
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Iride: Well, thanks for understanding. I'm no idiot by any means, I just hear different things about the same thing so it's confusing. You are right, I need to know who and who not to listen too. The tom thumb that I have on her now, she doesn't seem to mind. The curb chain is pretty loose just so she can get used to it again. And as I said before, I'm real light with my hands because she's a real responsive horse and only has a few vices which are all only when on trail. Should I tighten the curb chain or leave it go. It's looser than my 2 fingers at the moment. Thanks for your advice by the way!!

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