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post #1 of 10 Old 08-12-2020, 11:24 AM Thread Starter
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Officially Saddle Shopping - M Toulouse?

I officially sold my Collegiate saddle - currently I have around $550 to work with until my Rembrandt sells. I'm able to stretch up a bit, and am hoping to cap my budget at $800 until the Rembrandt sells. I listed a bunch of Clinton Anderson DVD's for sale, along with other tack I found that I no longer need, so hopefully I can get something that really works for me.

My finalized list of priorities:
1. 18" or 18.5" seat
2. All-leather
3. Forward flap
4. Preferably wool-flocking, maybe foam-flocking (NO CAIR panels!)

I am currently looking at two saddles seriously, both M Toulouse Saddles.
1. 18 M. Toulouse Marielle Monoflap. Wide tree.
I was prepared to buy this one, pending negotiation, but the final priced we arrived at was $775. It need a patch put on where his boot zipper made a hole, but other than that it looks great - BUT, the same saddle, without damage, has been selling for below $700. Maybe I will let it sit for a bit and see if he wants to budge on his price.



2. 18" M Toulouse, I believe the Annice. Adjustable gullet system.
Does anyone have experience with the Genesis system? I've read that some love it, and some hate it, and some instances it doesn't hold it's size setting...but I just don't know how I feel about it. At $850, it's at the top of my budget, but I'm considering it.



I will say, the used saddle market is suffering right now. I am having a terrible time finding anything with an 18" seat and a wide gullet, that fits my sub-$1,000 budget.

Has anyone had positive/negative experiences with the M Toulouse's, specifically the adjustable ones?

I sat in one at a saddle shop, though with a 17.5", and I liked it, but that certainly doesn't tell me how it will hold up!
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Following! I am also in the saddle market right now and a couple of M. Toulouse saddles caught my eye (especially the Premia).

Good luck on your search! It really seems like an uphill battle.
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post #3 of 10 Old 08-13-2020, 02:48 PM
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I have an 18in Harry Dabbs I'm back and forth on selling. Wool flocked, practically brand new, barely ridden in and thoroughly cleaned and oiled twice a year. Comes with leathers, safety irons, matching bridle, reins, breast plate, nearly new wool show pad, and cover. I have it listed a bit out of your budget but I'd be willing to accept payments if you liked it. Let me know if you'd like some more info or not.

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Following! I am also in the saddle market right now and a couple of M. Toulouse saddles caught my eye (especially the Premia).

Good luck on your search! It really seems like an uphill battle.
I've been considering two Premia's - though, once I saw the Marielle I became almost set on it. The Premia's have amazing reviews though on every site I've read. I've started look for sample saddles for sale as well, that tack shops have on the floor. I've found an M Toulouse Annice for $1,300 that is brand new, besides being sat on and maybe test rode.

However this saddle search has become a headache...I don't know how people do it often. I've had so many people contact me with their 17.5" or even 17" saddles claiming they fit like an 18"...I don't think so. My bum doesn't think so either.

Good luck on your search as well! I've heard horse shows that have saddle sellers at them have some of the best deals for brand new as well, sometimes at used prices!
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I have an 18in Harry Dabbs I'm back and forth on selling. Wool flocked, practically brand new, barely ridden in and thoroughly cleaned and oiled twice a year. Comes with leathers, safety irons, matching bridle, reins, breast plate, nearly new wool show pad, and cover. I have it listed a bit out of your budget but I'd be willing to accept payments if you liked it. Let me know if you'd like some more info or not.
Please send me more info - especially if it's a wide tree! I think I haven't seen more than one or two of these for sale - must be a pretty good indication that they are something good!
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Please send me more info - especially if it's a wide tree! I think I haven't seen more than one or two of these for sale - must be a pretty good indication that they are something good!
Will do! I'll send some photos, measurements, and info this evening. It is a beautiful buffalo hide saddle that puts you in a really good seat. It is also ridiculously comfortable for a close contact. I heard many good things about Harry Dabbs saddles and loved the ones I had ridden in before so I invested in it and then sadly my interest in English dwindled.

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Well, I unexpectedly impulse-bought a Stubben Siegfried for my SO to use. I started learning some of the history of these saddles, as this one was made in Germany. I'm excited for it to arrive, even though it is not "mine"... It looks like the "main" billets were replaced at some point, though it does need a minor stitching repair and some TLC. This was definitely not a planned purchase, but I started looking on Ebay for 18.5"/19" seated saddles and this popped up, and the price was right. I honestly didn't think the seller would accept my offer of $150 (shipping included!!!) but I woke up to an accepted offer. Based off of it's look, it should fit my gelding decently enough for the times that my SO comes out to ride.



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What find! Looks scared for. Now all you need is the billet protectors. He'll be set to ride.
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M. Toulouse saddles are very comfortable. I was very sad when I sold mine as I knew I couldn't replace it. But it didn't fit my horse and I needed the money. Very soft leather so they scuff easily.
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Hey, sorry it took so long. We lost power and internet for a few days due to a nasty tree coming down on the lines.

Here are the photos of the saddle if you're still interested!

18in Harry Dabbs Buffalo leather hardly ever used, some small stains on the seat (see photo) from my sister almost using darkening oil on it once (oy vey haha) but nothing your seat wouldn't cover. Very well cared for saddle. Could come as a set with matching breast plate, bridle, leathers, safety irons, cover, wool show pad, and fleece girth if it is the correct size you would need (can't remember the size off of the top of my head)
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