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View Poll Results: What do you think?
Yes, I'd use/have used them. 23 45.10%
No, I'd never use them. 22 43.14%
I don't know. 4 7.84%
Other answer (please elaborate). 2 3.92%
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post #11 of 51 Old 01-08-2010, 08:54 AM
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There are so many tools that are considered cruel or severe that are actually quite useful. The problem comes from uneducated hands and a misunderstanding about how to use them. It can be a trainer who may have years of experience but still doesn't know the proper use - only thinking that they do.

These types of aids are sold over the counter as a cure all and substitute for proper, time consuming, training to anyone with the money to buy them. The vast majority of purchasers have no real idea about how and when to apply them but they have seen others use them or saw a video, or read the instructions, etc.. Riders need to be trained not only to ride but to use any tool properly.

Have I ever used them? Many, many years ago, and I thought I knew how but I didn't and caused more problems then I already had. Today, I won't use anything unless I fully understand their use and weigh the benefits. Mostly I use nothing more then a snaffle and time.

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post #12 of 51 Old 01-08-2010, 09:04 AM
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Ho kavalkade. Loves it, eliminates the need for draw reins, Enough said.
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post #13 of 51 Old 01-08-2010, 09:19 AM
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I'm not a big fan of draw reins and will NEVER recommend them to someone on a message board, but I have used them in the past and probably would in the future if I felt they would be beneficial.

However, they would be a "last resort" as I usually have good luck with just altering my method of riding (changing how I "ask") to get through to the horse, or changing up bits (nothing "gimicky" though). I also like to use side-reins during lunging to help build up the proper balance and back muscle that make it possible for a horse to go "round" under saddle.

Draw reins should definitely be used only when absolutely necessary and only by someone who understand their mechanics and the mechanics of the horse's skeletal and muscular structures. You can do a lot of damage to the horse if you use them improperly, or at the very least create bad habits and build up the wrong muscles.
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post #14 of 51 Old 01-08-2010, 09:58 AM
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I've used them and won't rule out using them in the future.

In the proper hands they (and any other "gadget") can be a great tool for a schooling ride or two. Nothing long term.

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post #15 of 51 Old 01-08-2010, 11:55 AM
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This debate can be about any training aid, including tie downs, martingales, training forks, or draw reins. It depends on the horse, the rider or trainer, and on what your are trying to teach the horse. Any training aid used properly and in moderation can be very effective. Any training aid used incorrectly or as a "crutch" is not effective and can even cause more problems. Unfortunately, I think training aids are overused and used incorrectly more than they are used effectively.
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post #16 of 51 Old 01-08-2010, 12:15 PM
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i know that tons of pple in my area use draw reins. i have only used them once or twice, my trainer has me use a German Martingale and it seems to work well just out of curiosity does anybody have any information on them?

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post #17 of 51 Old 01-08-2010, 12:26 PM
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I have used them, for a few rides with my first horse. They worked pretty well. But I dont ride in the all the time. It can teach a horse to lean, or if over used can cause the horse to be more stiff.
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post #18 of 51 Old 01-08-2010, 01:09 PM
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i know that tons of pple in my area use draw reins. i have only used them once or twice, my trainer has me use a German Martingale and it seems to work well just out of curiosity does anybody have any information on them?
German Martingales can be worse than draw reins. Because of their ease of use, they are often over-used or mis-used. If your trainer is advising you to use one, ask why and ask for help on fixing the issue so you no longer have to use it. If he/she can't help you fix the issue, then I would find a new trainer.
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post #19 of 51 Old 01-08-2010, 01:14 PM
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German Martingales can be worse than draw reins. Because of their ease of use, they are often over-used or mis-used. If your trainer is advising you to use one, ask why and ask for help on fixing the issue so you no longer have to use it. If he/she can't help you fix the issue, then I would find a new trainer.

my trainer almost always has me use a German, but she never has me be harsh with it and she teaches how to get the horse softer, where my other trainer had me hold the reigns extremely tight and squeeze constantley with my legs to hold the horse in position, and quite frankly i think that is worst than using a german because i was never able to give my horse a break on his mouth

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post #20 of 51 Old 01-08-2010, 01:45 PM
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Less is more I find. I was getting lessons from a "dressage coach" here in Indianapolis that was all about gadgets. If the horse didn't respond, act right, whatever, her words were almost exactly - slap a high port kimberwicke on, crank down with a tie down and throw on the draw reins.

I used them once, my horse flipped over on me. Will never use them again.
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