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post #11 of 19 Old 09-19-2009, 10:51 PM
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But sometimes little legs can't get those lazy ponies moving :3.
I agree that they shouldn't be a replacement for aids, but they're very useful. I always carry a crop, but I rarely use it. Just having it there motivates my horse.
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post #12 of 19 Old 09-19-2009, 11:03 PM
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I don't really have a blanket answer because it would depend on the child and the horse/pony. As long as the whip is used properly, I don't care if the person holding it is 7 or 70.
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post #13 of 19 Old 09-19-2009, 11:27 PM
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Well, I'm nowhere near a fence.
I don't think they should.

There's really nothing that makes me shake me head more than a kid riding a horse in a shank bit and a riding crop.
Some briliant parents actually add spurs to the equation, too.
Actually, makes me want to saddle up the parents and the kids have free reign.

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But sometimes little legs can't get those lazy ponies moving :3.
I agree that they shouldn't be a replacement for aids, but they're very useful. I always carry a crop, but I rarely use it. Just having it there motivates my horse.
I agree- but they need to understand not to consistently whap the horse with the crop and that they should first use their legs. This girl was first using the crop at least five times in a row, not leaving any time for the horse to respond, and the couple times that she did use her legs, the horse DID respond.
I do like crops and whips, though. They can be very helpful if you use them wisely.


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post #15 of 19 Old 09-20-2009, 10:39 AM
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I won't comment on the child/crop/whip question other than to say that, just like having a good trail or cow horse, it takes a horse with very special skills to be a truly good child's lesson horse (and I do have a special place in my heart for them).

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post #16 of 19 Old 09-20-2009, 11:04 AM
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i think its fine for kids to use whips, as long as they arent relying on them too much, and if they are taught how to use them properly.
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post #17 of 19 Old 09-20-2009, 11:47 AM
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I really don't think the crop "replaces" other aids. Gonzo cannot be ridden with a crop. Period. So if he's lazy, you have to use leg aids to wake him up, because if he even sees a crop, he's terrified. But, let's say he wasn't. . If I was asking him on constantly, and he was remaining at one speed. . then I might tap his shoulder with the crop as my next step, after he won't respond to my leg. But if he wouldn't go at all (let's say, trot to canter, or walk to trot. .) then I would use it on his butt. If he was just being annoying in general, I'd probably just carry it.
With Roger, I carry one because it reminds him not to be naughty. I'm not saying I want him to be afraid of it, but he's still rusty at cantering, and when I have it, his transitions are a lot better. I try not to rely on it, and I do canter him without it as well, but yeh, sometimes I like to have it just so it's easier on me. Two other things I use it for with him? 1) I bring it while we're walking down to the ring. If I'm not on him, he will not move at all, and he's a real a*s on the ground. . ;) So if he acts up, or refuses to move, I'll tap his butt. 2) He will try to get me off now & again. So, if he's being really, really bad, I might smack him (not extremely hard, but enough to get his attention) to tell him he's bad.
With Rupert, I just like to have it because, he kind of runs into the canter. So I use the crop to wake him up and he's like, "oh. . we're cantering." and then he goes. hehe. Milo is extremely spacey, so I use it to remind him to pay attention to me sometimes.
Dunno if that helps, sorry for the novel, hehe. . but yeah, I think they should be able to if they know how to use it right.

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post #18 of 19 Old 09-20-2009, 11:57 AM
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i have seen alot of small kids using whips and crops and i think they are fine...as everyone else said, as long as they are not the only aid, leg first then crop. alot of kids are alot bettter at using whips then some adults, haha because they rode tiny stubborn grumpy ponies they know when to use it. i think its fine.

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It depends if the horse is slow and lazy, and if she knows how to use one.
If she's the impatient, "Why won't you listen?" type, then she probably shouldn't have one.
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