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post #1 of 25 Unread 02-14-2020, 01:33 AM Thread Starter
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war bridle

I am fairly new to the horse world (started riding 5-6 months ago) and I am interested in minimalistic riding. Currently I use a bosal and I try to ride bareback (with a pad or without) regularely. I am looking into treeless saddles and I was wondering if anyone here has ever ridden with a war bridle?? Is it comfortable for the horse? Can you give cues properly? Would you recommend this type of tack? Is it bad for the horse's mouth? (The horse I ride is neck reined so I wouldn't be pulling alot in it's mouth)




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That is different to the war bridle I was given when in the US, that one worked under the top lip with a cord going back to the saddle over the top of the head to stop the horse getting its head down to buck.

With the one pictured, neck reining or not, you are going to be in contact with the mouth and there is no way to use an individual side.
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If your horse neck reins well, use a halter and reins, that's about as minimalistic as you can get. You've only been riding for 6 months, and the bridle in your picture should not be used by a novice rider. My first thought on seeing it was that the amount of leverage applied could wind up breaking the horses jaw. There's also no way to lead the horse from the ground, or tie the horse if needed.
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If your horse neck reins well, use a halter and reins, that's about as minimalistic as you can get. You've only been riding for 6 months, and the bridle in your picture should not be used by a novice rider. My first thought on seeing it was that the amount of leverage applied could wind up breaking the horses jaw. There's also no way to lead the horse from the ground, or tie the horse if needed.



I wasn't planning on using it, the horse I ride dislikes things in his mouth so we use a bosal. :) I would always adjust the tack for the horse... If I would ever have my own horse I would love to go as minimalistic as possible. I like a bosal or something without a lot of straps and stuff going on. Furthermore I like the aesthetics of western and some traditional styles to tack up horses. But again... I think the wellbeing of the horse is the most important. :) I was just really curious about experiences with this kind of tack! :) I also think I will buy a mule if it ever gets to the point that I will be able to own my own animal (that would be in a couple of years or more. First I want to be a better rider and I need to learn much more about horses and I also need more money, lol)
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I am a real sucker for these kinds of tack! :) I also looooove traditional tack for arabians! :)
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They can be quite severe if you ever need to engage the reins. They are in fashion currently.

Very few horses actually have a need for a bridleless bit, so they're really just a statement piece.
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The two pictures of Native Costume are definitely gorgeous but not minimalistic.

I don't like the war bridle in the first picture and wonder how it stays in the horse's mouth without having it so tight it would be uncomfortable for the horse. Also I don't like the martingale type rein in the picture, it could cause some nasty rope burns in the horse's mouth if he threw his head up. If I was going that route I would use a string around the neck instead.
Your idea of riding with a bosal is much better.
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Like a Crow buddy told a tourist when she asked why the native kids weren't riding with "war bridles"...

"Ahhhh... War bridles. We used those until we won a couple battles. Then we stole all the bits. Much better."

Like @ApuestoT pointed out. They can be quite severe. And horses are so often stoic and tolerant of what we do to them.

Stick with a halter and lead for minimalism (flat nylon) or a well made and well fitted bosal.
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Don’t get caught up in the glamours look of these costumes - that is what they are costumes for glamor shots. They are things movies are made of and not realistic for riding unless one is in a costume class or a parade:)

The Nez Pierce Native American tribe is still well known for being the best horsemen on the planet, possibly second only to the Mongols.

Their every day riding tack was sparse to say the least and as efficient as they knew how to make with what little they had. That does not mean it was good for the horse. It only means that’s all they had ; they were (and still are) excellent riders.

This link has some old black and white pictures that look to date back to the turn of the century (1800’s into the 1900’s).

The Nez Perce Horse ? Dreamer Horse Farm

There is one foto of a Native American on a horse with a bit and reins similar to what you posted. The horse looks thrilled (not) to have it in his mouth and wrapped under his chin.

It is evident by the black and white photos the Nez Pierce opted for more industrialized tack, once the opportunity was there.

I rode bareback the bulk of my entire life - sliding down river banks, swimming the rivers, digging up the other side. Digging up power lines so steep I had my arms wrapped around my horse’s neck, hoping I didn’t slide off his back before we got to the top.

I did all that with a low port curb bit and leg/seat cues that I did all the training. I was raised on horses, that type of riding is not for the novice.

Born in the late 1940’s in the United States, I had plenty of opportunity to see and touch that bit/rein device. There is no way in Hades that I would have ever put one of those “war” pieces in any of my horses mouths. Even had I thought about it, my grandfather would have grounded me off his horses until I was an adult, lol

Keep taking lessons and admiring those glamorous fotos. While there’s a lot of good to be said for Some of the “old ways”, that bit & rein set up is not one of them:)

Also, in your foto in post #5, the horse is wearing a snaffle bit::
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