I was simply trying to answer the original posters question, as to when and why I would use a harsher bit, and these responses are exactly what she is talking about. If anyone dares use something stronger than a snaffle, they are ridiculed. If my arms get sore because the horse needs an education, that is probably what I am trying to provide, but it takes time and sometimes I have to suffer. If I said he was hot, then my mistake, he is kind of hot, and riders who are learning to post don't always know how to keep their leg perfectly still. But the horses that I have to work with are provided for kids with no experience or opportunity to work with horses, and I don't have much choice. Is he taking off regularly? No, but he did scare me and someone else when he wouldn't stop right away. I can ride and canter him perfectly, he is well trained, leg yeilds ect. but he does respond well to leg. If any of you aren't any more educated on an english tom thumb than I was on a western one, perhaps you should look into it also. It is not a severe bit, and as I already stated he is not uncomfortable in it, he has hardly noticed. So I would like all of you who say that these people do not deserve to learn about horses and how to do more than walk around the ring which many of them have done for years, you tell them. I for one, want them to build up proper muscling so they can have educated hands, seat and leg. In order to do that we must do more than walk. They have already done that. They ride with a crop across their wrists to keep them straight and even and get them paying attention to where bothj hands are, also helps teach about outside rein, so I think I am focusing on educating their hands enough. But what I am seeing is people less tolerant of beginners than the horses they are riding. They are getting feed, loved, exercised and all for the price of carrying a bit that encourages him to stop. I always start in a snaffle, but I am not afraid to admit that I will move into something different according to situation. They have to learn some how, and it should be fun. As for my attitude, fine, but I am just willing to speak about the original question, not have my methods questioned.
Troubled TB ~"A thorn by any other name will ***** just as deep." @-'--,---