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post #1 of 9 Old 09-16-2019, 02:15 PM Thread Starter
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Wide QH- measurements for a western saddle?

my QH is pretty wide, I’m looking to buy her a new saddle but I’m having a hard time finding one with an 8” gullet. I’m trying to sell her current one, it’s an older roper saddle, and really heavy. I’d like to get rid of it to get her a new one. I’ve been on Craigslist, eBay and whatnot but no luck. I’ve been wondering if maybe I have been measuring wrong, what how and where do you measure when trying to find good fitting saddles? Seems like they all measure around 7” gullets and have semi qh bars or something. I’m getting a little frustrated 😂 does anybody else have this problem? Or am I the only one!?
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Most wide FQH saddles will only have a 7" gullet at most-- but the bar ANGLE is what matters, not so much the gullet width. For instance, I have one saddle with semi-QH bars that is 6 3/4 inch gullet, and one FQH that's the same gullet width. There's no 'standard' measurement for western saddles, so there is some variance.



https://goodappleequine.com/?p=816 - has a good display of where to measure and what gullet widths tend to correspond to what saddle trees; notice there is a variance.



The templates here might give you a better idea of what you should be looking for based on your mare's back: https://www.horsesaddleshop.com/easy...mendation.html


Also bear in mind that the gullet width and bar angle/tree size are only part of the fit. You can have those fit and still have a poorly-fitting saddle.
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Most wide FQH saddles will only have a 7" gullet at most-- but the bar ANGLE is what matters, not so much the gullet width. For instance, I have one saddle with semi-QH bars that is 6 3/4 inch gullet, and one FQH that's the same gullet width. There's no 'standard' measurement for western saddles, so there is some variance.



https://goodappleequine.com/?p=816 - has a good display of where to measure and what gullet widths tend to correspond to what saddle trees; notice there is a variance.



The templates here might give you a better idea of what you should be looking for based on your mare's back: https://www.horsesaddleshop.com/easy...mendation.html


Also bear in mind that the gullet width and bar angle/tree size are only part of the fit. You can have those fit and still have a poorly-fitting saddle.
Thank you!that helps a lot. how do you measure your horse for the gullet measurement then?
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Either try a bunch of saddles until you find what works, or use the templates in that link I gave you, or make a wither tracing using a wire or flexible curve (trace it onto a piece of cardboard) and match that to the gullet and bar angle.
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I ride pretty much the same saddle on every horse and just change the thickness of the saddle pads. Both my saddles are made on 4” hand hole, 92 degree bars and fit most anything except a draft horse with a change of pads.

There is really no set standard for what production saddle makers designate as SQH or FQH and as stated by others the gullet size is only one measurement that affects the fit. The best advice is to try a few saddles if possible and see what you need.
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Try an Abetta. The endurance model and beech model are both super wide with a wide bar angle.

Fabtron has a wide model tree. Check their website. I think my horses are the B tree, the wide tree is a C on the model number.

I don't like solid leather saddles so i can't suggest other brands. Circle y was too narrow for my paint so i don't think that would work.
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I don’t know a lot about saddle trees, bars of saddles, and saddle fit in general, so because of this saddle search I’m trying to get educated on it. I’m still slightly confused even tho ur doing a good job explaining, but how can I tell what angle/degree a saddle is? Do you measure it in inches and then with a protractor convert it somehow to degrees? And to measure her withers for the gullet: or use the template you gave me, and measure the gap of where the swell would be? The wide angle\fullQhbars fits her,but that gullet only measures at 7”.that looks to be too narrow for her,and if I’m correct the larger the gullet, the bars still the same angle It would just be wider and give more room on her shoulder/wither?so if I had a saddle with a too narrow gullet, while the bars are the right angle, how would it sit on her? Thanks, I hope that’s not confusing ...
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For right measurement you can buy gullet measuring tool from any online tack shop. That will help you getting correct measurement.


There is no standard gullet measurement in equestrian industry. Every brand has own fitting and design .
7" Gullet is best fit to FQH and 6 3/4 is for SQH

As I said every brand has own measurement and design so you better have all information before ordering any saddle which ended up sitting your tack room or tackling return process.
I have good experience with the company saddlesonline selling nice saddle for the good price and comfortable nice fitting .

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post #9 of 9 Old 10-02-2019, 11:40 AM
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My wide barreled, flat backed, mutton withered QH is going well in Full QH Bars from Continental Reining (and they do offer an Xtra-FQHB tree.) In all my searching, I found the best fits on the better brands of reining/cowhorse/WP saddles like Continental, Blue Ribbon, Bob's Custom or Dale Chavez, as opposed to the average Billy Cook, Circle Y, etc.

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