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post #1 of 23 Old 04-30-2019, 01:44 PM Thread Starter
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Question Hoof Boots: New Mac, Renegade or Cavallo Sport?

So I've been looking into boots for my Fjord X Quarter Horse mare and have narrowed it down (I think) to 3 different styles; the Easyboot New Mac, the Renegade or the Cavallo Sport.
I currently have been trying the Easyboot Bare and the Epic, and find the Bare to be a write off. Very hard to get on & off and does not adjust well to my mare's hoof shape, leaving a gap at the top and allows gravel to get in (I need them for her tenderness on gravel roads atm, so this is not a good feature)
The Epic does better, but is still difficult to get on


I am looking for a bit of info from people who use the above 3 boots to get a better idea of which one would work best.
I ride mostly on gravel but some grass, hills & mud as well. Walk, trot lope. Won't be putting huge miles on them but wouldn't mind something that could hold up nonetheless.
My mare has a slightly longer toe (which could be why the Bare doesn't work for her), which is why I am also avoiding the Easyboot Glove, since everyone claims that there is little allowance for flare, toes or growth but otherwise it sounds like a good boot.
I like that the New Mac has a strap inside that goes around the ankle to prevent it getting blown right off & potentially lost, but it appears bulkier than the other as well...


My questions are:
How easy are they on and off?
How does the hardware hold up?
Do they collect gravel??
How forgiving are they and how do they allow for hoof growth?

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I will be watching this thread with interest. I am using Epics but hate how I have to trim or rasp my horse's hooves to keep them fitting towards the end of the trim cycle. I would like something easier to put on.


I have never tried the boots you mentioned. Well, I tried the OLD Old Macs, but not the new ones. I found them bulky and the soles were cracking after a few rides. Easycare was very nice to deal with and let me exchange them for Epics, which I had already tried before and never had an issue with (other than the usual expected issues, hard to get on, broken cables and stuff). So I have been afraid to try other boots.


I would love to find a durable, easy to apply boot that isn't too clunky. The Epics aren't clunky but the ones that look like Macs worry me. Because the OLD Old Macs were pretty clunky. And I once ordered a pair of Cavallos and was afraid to try them (so I returned them before using them) because the seemed pretty clunky too. The ideal boot is probably out there, but I can't afford to try out unlimited styles of boots until I find it.

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I will be watching this thread with interest. I am using Epics but hate how I have to trim or rasp my horse's hooves to keep them fitting towards the end of the trim cycle. I would like something easier to put on.


I have never tried the boots you mentioned. Well, I tried the OLD Old Macs, but not the new ones. I found them bulky and the soles were cracking after a few rides. Easycare was very nice to deal with and let me exchange them for Epics, which I had already tried before and never had an issue with (other than the usual expected issues, hard to get on, broken cables and stuff). So I have been afraid to try other boots.


I would love to find a durable, easy to apply boot that isn't too clunky. The Epics aren't clunky but the ones that look like Macs worry me. Because the OLD Old Macs were pretty clunky. And I once ordered a pair of Cavallos and was afraid to try them (so I returned them before using them) because the seemed pretty clunky too. The ideal boot is probably out there, but I can't afford to try out unlimited styles of boots until I find it.
Exactly! I like how light weight the Renegades look, however they are the most expensive and I would like to know how they are during trim cycles and if the open heel allows for more gravel and dirt to get in...?

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My husband's gelding has Renegades and I have a front set for my gelding. They've stayed on through mud/river crossings/rocks/etc at a walk/trot/canter. He did 100+ miles of Limited Distance/Competitive Trail rides in them last year with no issues and they still look brand new except for a little color fading (double or triple those miles for the whole summer including our conditioning rides). My only complaint is that if you ride in sandy conditions the velcro gets cruddy and doesn't stick well. During one ride he had to get off about 4 times to fix sandy velcro but he never had an issue at other locations with less sandy trails.

I'm switching my mare to boots this year from steel shoes. I bought her Scoot boots which you didn't mention but I would recommend looking in to. If you get the right size they seem great and I love the new mud straps. We've probably done 40-50 miles in them so far this year for training and I'll have a better review after she does her first 25 mile ride in them this weekend but so far I like them a lot!

Easy Boots is coming out with a new Fury line this month which is supposed to be awesome so you might want to wait to see what they offer before you make a purchase!
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My husband's gelding has Renegades and I have a front set for my gelding. They've stayed on through mud/river crossings/rocks/etc at a walk/trot/canter. He did 100+ miles of Limited Distance/Competitive Trail rides in them last year with no issues and they still look brand new except for a little color fading (double or triple those miles for the whole summer including our conditioning rides). My only complaint is that if you ride in sandy conditions the velcro gets cruddy and doesn't stick well. During one ride he had to get off about 4 times to fix sandy velcro but he never had an issue at other locations with less sandy trails.

I'm switching my mare to boots this year from steel shoes. I bought her Scoot boots which you didn't mention but I would recommend looking in to. If you get the right size they seem great and I love the new mud straps. We've probably done 40-50 miles in them so far this year for training and I'll have a better review after she does her first 25 mile ride in them this weekend but so far I like them a lot!

Easy Boots is coming out with a new Fury line this month which is supposed to be awesome so you might want to wait to see what they offer before you make a purchase!
I did a little looking into the Scoot Boots, but read multiple reviews regarding "poor quality"? They claim the screws pull out easily and that they rub?
I did like how light weight they looked... will keep the new Easyboots in mind too, though!
I'm going to wait until her next trim to get a good trace & measure so that I have it on hand, since all boots (even within the same brand *sigh*) measure & fit differently

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I donít have experience with any boots excepting the Cavallo Treks, which you didnít mention. They do seem clunky, but on a horse it doesnít feel that way. The reason Bones wears them instead of shoes is that he brushes, and so I need to keep his feet short. I was worried they would brush, but I havenít noticed that at all (granted he wears protection for that).

Now, that said I have really liked them. Iíve put a lot of miles on them in the mountains at all speeds. Gone through deep mud too... The only time one came off was due to a fall in a badger hole. They havenít rubbed and they donít collect gravel. The Velcro stays shut, but it does gather seeds and takes forever to clean.

This spring though I did have two different issues with them. One day I was on a steep side hill and it was muddy, going around some cows. They slipped out from under him so fast and it was a wreck.

Then, the next weekend, I was trying to turn a calf at a run down a gravel road and boy did they slip. Now, I realize gravel roads are slick with regular shoes as well, but this felt really extreme.

I donít know if it is because the tread is wearing off of them after two years of work, but I didnít feel as confident this spring. I will say I never felt bad before, and maybe these were coincidental, but I wonder if I have reached their end mileage.

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Thanks Knave :) I did look a little into the Treks, but was able to find more reviews on the Sport, but apart from how they do up at the front, they seemed (to me) to be fairly similar. I read somewhere in the past about them not being recommended for fast paces but wasn't sure why...?
luckily we will not be chasing any cattle, so I shouldn't have to worry there!
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QueenofFrance08, I did a little snooping at the new Fury line that Easyboot is going to be releasing soon, and now my choices are becoming more difficult haha!
I like the look of the Fury Heart (pictured) and it has an adjustable height and length, which sounds good but hopefully doesn't mean more potential breakage due to multiple moving parts...the openness of it, as with the Renegades, is what concerns me.
I'm fairly new to boots, but would this not allow for more grit and rocks to get in?
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The first & biggest thing you need to consider when choosing boots is the fit. Different boots fit different sizes & conformations of foot differently. For eg if your horse's hooves are round, wide or wider than they are long, this cuts down the options a bit(eg Macs are likely inappropriate). If your horse is high heeled, that makes some boots inappropriate. So first & foremost you need to measure after a fresh trim & consider the overall shape of the hoof, before you can look at the different sizing of different boots & consider which ones will work. It's annoying that there can't be a 'standard' sizing for boots... but like with our own shoes, you can't just pick any 'size 8' out of a catalogue & expect them to fit the same.

Also some boots are sold singly, many only as pairs, so if your horse happens to have mismatched feet, that will also effect your decision.

Fit of course also depends on how often you trim & how much 'leeway' you want to allow for overgrown hooves. I love Glove boots for eg but not only are they not great on hooves with much if any 'deformation', as without any means of adjusting, they must fit tightly & almost perfectly, so you really need to be prepared to 'brush up' the trim every 2-4 weeks for them to fit well. The Back Country Gloves are a little freer, as they have the uppers to help. Most other boots, esp 'high profile' ones are a bit 'freer' in that regard, as the 'uppers' can be fastened tightly anyway. But virtually all boots are compromised when fit is compromised too much, and while loose fitting boots may be fine for quiet walking trail rides, they can twist & come off with much more difficult or fast riding. So when considering 'leeway', that is a big factor - unless you only walk easy trails... and I don't advise budgeting for longer than 6 weeks max between trims(anyway, but for boot fit too).

Then you need to look at what they're used for. For eg for the average pleasure rider, 'high profile' boots like Macs & Cavellos are fine, but for lots of miles, long hard rides, can rub - which isn't generally a prob if boots fit well anyway, but can be, when worn for long periods. If you do a lot of miles regularly, you would probably be better keeping to 'low profile' boots like Renegades or Epics, Or Scoots that don't come over the hairline, so not much chance of rubbing.

If you regularly ride in sand or fine gravel, That can be an issue with just about any boot IME, esp to the bulbs. The more snugly the boots fit, the less the problems IME. You can generally get around it with a 'sock', be that neoprene or otherwise. Tho sand is generally great to have the horse bare on anyway...

Ease of putting on is an issue for many. Epics for eg, are a great boot, but should fit tight & are not the easiest to get on & off. My first set of Epics(old early style with 'teeth' in the sides) I got them on for a ride, but then found them almost impossible to get off - thought my horse was going to have to live in them! I ended up just removing the strap with the teeth at the back & all was good. Trails, Macs & Cavellos are all easy to put on & off, Renegades & Scoots are pretty easy too.

Clunkiness... Old Old Macs(original pre Easycare) at least were pretty clunky. I have not seen anyone with New Macs, so... they look very similar(in effect) to the Trails to me, and I don't know what the difference is, except in looks. Cavellos are quite chunky too. Trails, and all others with big uppers look a bit clunky to me, but fit snugly, they're not really, and I've not known of any to be an issue because of this. I think in regard to that factor, it's only really cosmetic.

You mention Easycare Bares - IMO there's a good reason they discontinued those...

If you want to post some pics of your horse's hooves, taken squarely from ground level, and his soles, & tell me the riding you do etc, I could narrow it down a bit for you?
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Some info I've found helpful; [COLOR=Lime][B]www.horseforum.com/horse-health/hoof-lameness-info-horse-owners-89836/
For taking critique pics; [COLOR=Lime][B]https://www.horseforum.com/members/41...res-128437.jpg
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Yeah, the new Fury boots look great. Look a bit like Scoots to me... with far better fixings. Re Scoots, I didn't like the look of them, but haven't tried them. Heard a few ornary reviews when they first came out re rubbing, but not sure if they changed anything since. I do know a fair few people who use them & very happy with them tho.

Some info I've found helpful; [COLOR=Lime][B]www.horseforum.com/horse-health/hoof-lameness-info-horse-owners-89836/
For taking critique pics; [COLOR=Lime][B]https://www.horseforum.com/members/41...res-128437.jpg
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