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post #1 of 11 Old 12-02-2019, 09:35 PM Thread Starter
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Red face 4-in-1 Blanket too overwhelming as a boarder?

Hello,

I don't have much money to spend on blankets ATM, but my horse gets too sweaty when riding in the winter here in Minnesota. I cannot afford to buy A medium,heavy, etc. I came across this blanket, which is a 4-in-1 system for a reasonable price.

What I am worried about is that I am not able to come to the barn every day as I am occupied with school + work, so I wouldn't be able to change out the filler to adjust with the weather here. Would I be just over complicating things for the grooms, or am I the one over-reacting?

Any other suggestions?

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post #2 of 11 Old 12-02-2019, 10:20 PM
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Many barn owners will not do multiple blankets or liners. Or you are charged more. Having to swap out liners takes more time than swapping whole blankets, multiply that by a whole barn potentially having layers and morning turnout takes forever.

You will have to talk to the staff at your barn and see what they do specifically. It may also depend on the fastening on the liner. Too many snaps and velcro would be a no.

That aside, I love liners. That's what most of my blankets are. I use primarily the horsewear Ireland liner system, but I can toss the liners under any sheet and they stay put. Liners are generally cheaper than full turnouts.
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post #3 of 11 Old 12-02-2019, 11:05 PM
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Regardless of what the barn owner says, check with one of the grooms that you particularly like. For a "tip" each month, you may find that the groom will handle the changes for you. When I boarded, I liked to have my horses get a nice bran mash weekly in the winter. One of my favorite grooms would mix it up for him and feed it to him and all I did was slip him a $20 (this was back in the 70's so adjust accordingly) each month and gave him a nice Christmas bonus each year. He treated my horse like an absolute prince. He'd have been very happy to do the blankets and such, but in So. Cal. we didn't use much past midweight anyhow.

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post #4 of 11 Old 12-03-2019, 03:42 AM
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I'm in N. Cali. I have that blanket and I think it's wonderful. The waterproofing is great, it's shaped well and stays ON through wind, rain, and my horse taking a mud bath. Best of all...my horse hasn't destroyed it in 2 years and it's showing no signs of failing. That's far more than I can say for Tough-1 blankets (never again...) It takes barely any time to change the liners - unzip outer shell, match velcro on liner to velcro inside of blanket, stuff in the liner and smooth it out, then zip up the blanket. The clasps, even being plastic, are one of the best ideas I've seen yet. They're easy on cold/stiff/arthritic hands, too. I got the hood for this blanket included for free, and it's very easy to put on as well. Lots of velcro. I was thoroughly impressed with how carefully packaged this blanket was. Each liner has its own 'camp' bag, but I can never get the liners stuffed back in the bags so I keep them in the original Noble Outfitters box.

Only problem I had with that blanket was this: it ran a little long for my mare and she had a hard time lifting her tail. I noticed it shortly after blanketing, and resorted to cutting the tail flap up the center. The flap is an entirely separate piece of fabric, so this in no way harmed the blanket. The fabric has not unraveled and it has stayed great. The flap is now a self-closing curtain.

But...your horse is sweaty after a ride? Then adding a blanket is not the entire answer. Optionally, you can clip your horse. Even if you do, your horse should be dry before blanketing. But then your horse will be dry...and the way you made it sound, your horse doesn't need a blanket when dry? If that is not true, then the Guardsman blanket will serve you well. I wouldn't worry about changing the filler too much, and your horse might not even need the fill. My horse has a winter coat and she's keeping her weight into the cold months, so I don't bother using the fill that often.

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It depends on how much hassle it is to keep removing layers. Providing a fleece, a rainsheet and a winter blanket is definitely easier. But if you expect them to swap blankets several times a day, be prepared to pay extra. My horses are home so I can do it myself, but I wouldn't trust just anyone to do it. It requires constant monitoring of outdoor conditions. You can't just say heavy blanket at night, light blanket during the day - it all depends on the weather conditions and they can change quickly.

If your horse is sweaty after a ride, you need to throw on a fleece and walk them until they are dry, then remove the fleece that will have wicked away the moisture by then. A fleece blanket is pretty cheap and can be used under a water repellent layer on colder days so it's multifunctional.
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post #6 of 11 Old 12-03-2019, 09:21 AM
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It takes barely any time to change the liners - unzip outer shell, match velcro on liner to velcro inside of blanket, stuff in the liner and smooth it out, then zip up the blanket. The clasps, even being plastic, are one of the best ideas I've seen yet. They're easy on cold/stiff/arthritic hands, too. I got the hood for this blanket included for free, and it's very easy to put on as well. Lots of velcro.

Honestly, that sounds like a lot of work. The Horsewear Ireland liner are two small velcro tabs at the neck and two snaps at the tail cord. Could definitely see a BO refusing to deal with zippers and stuffing filling into shells.


OP, you don't actually say your horse's living conditions, if they are stalled at night or if they are out 24/7. Mine is out 24/7, blanketed all winter and I don't have any blanketing services. I will ask staff to pull a blanket maybe once or twice a winter when it get's really warm during the day, but otherwise it's all on me. I can't get out there every day, the most I'm ever not there is 2 days. I plan ahead and dress him for the most extreme temperature. If I know it's going to get super cold the next day but it's still pretty nice the evening before, then he might have to deal with being a little warmer than ideal for a few hours at night. Same with the other direction, I'd rather he be a little colder in the overnight than warm during the day; that's what he has a shelter full of straw and friends for. I also utilize neck vs no neck to help with temperature swings.


You may want to clip if she's getting that sweaty.
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Honestly, that sounds like a lot of work. The Horsewear Ireland liner are two small velcro tabs at the neck and two snaps at the tail cord. Could definitely see a BO refusing to deal with zippers and stuffing filling into shells.
You're talking about this? https://shop.horseware.com/product/h...er-400g-heavy/

Looks like the same amount of work to me. The guardsman does it backwards - shell on horse first, then liner. I really didn't think the filler was that unwieldy. I can see some issues though. If the BO/Groom can't easily reach the back of the horse, the only option is to fill the shell while it's off the horse. That would make the whole task more difficult, and the blanket would be heavier. And of course, the pocket liner design is less intuitive than just stacking blankets. So you have a point there.

But all of this is just fluff until we hear back from the OP regarding options and BO/groom availability. And besides, the reason for wanting a blanket was a sweaty horse, and that's not...really a good direct reason to have this blanket. There are many threads about clipping for wintertime, one needs only search 'sweaty clip' or 'winter clip.' Clipping is a reason to blanket.

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post #8 of 11 Old 12-04-2019, 10:11 AM
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You're talking about this? https://shop.horseware.com/product/h...er-400g-heavy/

Looks like the same amount of work to me. The guardsman does it backwards - shell on horse first, then liner. I really didn't think the filler was that unwieldy. I can see some issues though. If the BO/Groom can't easily reach the back of the horse, the only option is to fill the shell while it's off the horse. That would make the whole task more difficult, and the blanket would be heavier. And of course, the pocket liner design is less intuitive than just stacking blankets. So you have a point there.

But all of this is just fluff until we hear back from the OP regarding options and BO/groom availability. And besides, the reason for wanting a blanket was a sweaty horse, and that's not...really a good direct reason to have this blanket. There are many threads about clipping for wintertime, one needs only search 'sweaty clip' or 'winter clip.' Clipping is a reason to blanket.

Yea, that's the system. Maybe I just don't have the picture fully, the pictures on the site aren't very illustrative. I'm imaging trying to stuff a liner into a shell in the morning while the horse is anxious to go outside. lol.


But it really is moot until OP clarifies her situation.
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Thank you for the replies! He was a pasture pony until I brought him up to a heated barn on Monday. Turnout in a paddock from morning until around 4:30 pm. He has all his winter fuzz, and I am clipping him on Saturday to deal with sweat, and that is why he needs to be blanketed.

The tail thing changes my point of view. I saw the exact same complaint on Dover, and my guy has an extremely thick arabian tail, so it is already pointed upwards, and therefore cannot afford to be restricted by any means.
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Thank you for the replies! He was a pasture pony until I brought him up to a heated barn on Monday. Turnout in a paddock from morning until around 4:30 pm. He has all his winter fuzz, and I am clipping him on Saturday to deal with sweat, and that is why he needs to be blanketed.

The tail thing changes my point of view. I saw the exact same complaint on Dover, and my guy has an extremely thick arabian tail, so it is already pointed upwards, and therefore cannot afford to be restricted by any means.
Every turn out blanket I have has a tail flap. At one point I had 60 Arabians that got blanketed, not one had issues with the tail flap.

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