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post #21 of 68 Old 12-06-2012, 08:56 PM
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Well written, Mandy!!!
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post #22 of 68 Old 12-06-2012, 09:34 PM
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I just realized how many errors were in my previous post xD sorry guys. I hate typing on our laptop because it randomly 'edits' things and the keyboard sticks.

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Beautifully written!
Thank you so much for taking the time to post this.
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post #24 of 68 Old 12-07-2012, 12:24 AM
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Nice post, but I am going to criticize.

I think accepting well intended constructive criticism from others is necessary to progress in anything, as is self criticism. When I admire someone’s ability/talent w a horse, and their character, their “advise” (constructive criticism) surely can smart/has smarted. Although hearing criticism from those I have held/hold in high esteem isn’t/wasn’t always enjoyable, their company was/is - and their criticisms had their intended effect…to help me become a better horse person, not to find fault. The internet can’t replace “in person”. But, it (net) is great for knowledge, and info – especially for reasonably up to date equine research, but even studies rarely entirely agree. Criticism, when it comes to horses, is often an opinion. I do not own a copy of the “horse operating manual” some seem to have purchased, and if I owned the same “book of etiquette” they are also reading from, I think I would toss it and give good old Amy’s a try….but it doesn’t smart in the least when they weigh in – they are decisively the opposite of those I admire. I have enjoyed learning through civil discourse, mulling over constructive criticisms, and exchanging ideas w those that enjoy/practice the same on HF – and I have “met” some mighty fine folks – even db has his moments. So, I am going to be critical of the idea one should accept “criticism”, I think it needs to be qualified - constructive criticism can be invaluable and should be welcomed; criticism, in general? No, not always.
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post #25 of 68 Old 12-07-2012, 01:15 AM
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My trainer rarely critisizes. She'll mostly let you continue doing things the way you do them if you like. But, She models how she thinks things get done the best, and if you want what she has, you ask how to do what she does. Pretty simple.
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While yes, I do think that it is not necessary to use other people's criticism when given rudely, I do think that is is mature and much better to simply ignore things that may have been written rudely, rather than confronting it. 99% of the big arguments on this forum are usually not because someone decided to be rude that day, but rather because whoever the reciever of the rude comments replied back with equally rude or snarky posts, thus 'feeding the fire' instead of just letting it die.

This isnt always the case ofcourse. Some arguments on here are simply because of a very ignorant OP, an OP that began as rude (not unknowledgable, mind you. There is a difference) or because of one poster trying to start arguments no matter how you ignore them. I do think that just ignoring what you can though, instead of jumping to the defensive side immediately, is very good practice. One that is very hard to master though, I know.

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There is NO perfect rider, NO perfect trainer, NO perfect method. If there were, there would be no trainers, no coaches, no instructors, no clinicians, no dvd's, no youtube videos...
And no Horse Forum either.
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post #28 of 68 Old 12-08-2012, 02:33 AM
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Missy may its not what you say that is important it is how you say it.
You and i have had a few disagreements but we do so with respect for each other and we do try and understand the others point of view.
That is what is important. that we allow others the chance to do things their way and solve problems in their own manner .
Those who insist that they know everything rarely do. Shalom
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Excellent post! My students have it way easier than I do - I'm WAY harder on myself than on them! Thanks for reminding me I'll never be perfect....
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Missy may its not what you say that is important it is how you say it.
You and i have had a few disagreements but we do so with respect for each other and we do try and understand the others point of view.
That is what is important. that we allow others the chance to do things their way and solve problems in their own manner .
Those who insist that they know everything rarely do. Shalom
Does that depend though on who the people are? Here for sure we need to be polite with each other and that's a good ideal, but in the outside world, does it matter.

George Morris is a jumping trainer (not talking to you like you are an idiot, but I wouldn't know who a reiner trainer is). He was just the US Olympic coach. He often calls people idiots, he yells, he just says it as it is. I don't think that's a bad thing. If he told me I was an idiot, he'd likely be right in comparison to him, he has no tolerance of fools and why should he at his level.

If George Morris called me an idiot, I would be basking in the glory of his presence. Some people might feel that way about people I consider idiots like Tom Cruise.

I guess my point is that it depends on who is saying it.

For me personally I prefer a straight shooter, I don't have to second guess anything, I know exactly where I stand. I like that. Much like a dog, I suppose.
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