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post #11 of 49 Old 06-27-2013, 06:35 PM
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I would call the authorities, hitting a horse in any place with a hammer is NOT okay. As someone else said, if he is sore in his ribs...definitely call a vet. He could of done damage.
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post #12 of 49 Old 06-27-2013, 06:39 PM
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I will fire a bad tempered farrier.. And have . That is uncalled for.
I had one farrier do that to an old horse, and I yanked the hammer out of his hand and said get out. I told him you dont ever beat my horse.
FIND a new farrier .
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post #13 of 49 Old 06-27-2013, 06:49 PM
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A word of warning with the horse. Don't coddle him just because he was abused. Be softer, yes, but don't let him get away with things and blame it on his background. Treat him like you would any other horse - work with him on his problems (like being headshy, and trust) and don't play things down as 'getting used to his new home.' I know it's hard but that can and will lead to even worse behavior if he learns he can get away wit hthings because you're soft with him.

That being said YES. Get a new farrier. If he doesn't want to work with any horses that aren't perfect he's in the wrong profession. My farrier was very patient with me and Clem when she was on the verge of a horse breakdown getting her hooves done. And you know what? He finihsed her feet. Didn't hit her. The guy I bought Clem from has ~30 horses, and he trims them himself. One of the horses has a scar across her nose from being smacked with a rasp after pulling a foot away during trimming. It makes me wonder if that's why Clem's not great at standing for trimming.

A horse, especially an abused horse, needs a firm but gentle hand. Don't let her get away with things but geez, don't beat her with a hammer either.
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post #14 of 49 Old 06-27-2013, 06:59 PM
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I read a study that the fastest way to lose customers was thro disrespect and not answering their questions. Using a hammer is a good way to crack ribs. If you are riding this horse, get him good and tired, so his butt is dragging before the new farrier arrives. This often takes the stupid out of them.



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post #15 of 49 Old 06-27-2013, 07:00 PM
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Someone did something similar to my horse and I fired him on the spot. Totally NOT okay to hit a horse with metal tools, nor lose your patience. NOR be rude to the owner.

Now you know this, don't take crap from any farriers. You are employing them, not the other way around. This is business so things should be professional.

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post #16 of 49 Old 06-27-2013, 07:12 PM
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I am trying to see this from the farriers side of it...

It is not his job to teach your horse proper manners. Trimming and shoeing is HARD on a farriers back in the best of situations, so having a horse who wont stand still, is being chargy or keeps tearing his feet away from the farrier makes everything more difficult. I won't fault a farrier for going off on a horse who is being an idiot ( assuming he didn't completely fly of the handle). My horse pepper had her day with my old and very good farrier.. he went after her with a rasp one day because she was being a pill ( it was just one day for some reason, she was usually NEVER like that).. you know what she still stands beautifully and that was almost 3 years ago.

IMO stop making excuses for your horse and work on his ground manners otherwise before long you wont be able to get farriers to work on your horse:)
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post #17 of 49 Old 06-27-2013, 07:16 PM
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I am trying to see this from the farriers side of it...

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IMO stop making excuses for your horse and work on his ground manners otherwise before long you wont be able to get farriers to work on your horse:)
There is still NO excuse to hit a horse with metal tools, especially on his rib cage. If one of those were to break and puncture his organs.. bye bye horsey.

Correcting is fine, but brutality is not.

But yes I agree they aren't there to work on their ground manners however I find that the right people have no issues with my horse and he behaves perfectly for him.

Horses feed off of the emotions of their handler. Horse 101.
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post #18 of 49 Old 06-27-2013, 07:28 PM
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horse's kick each other.. I doubt the farrier hit the horse with the force needed to break ribs. I do agree that he definetly should have been a little more forgiving given the fact the horse is in a new environment and the owner is a newbie, and yes I would fire a farrier who disrespected me BUT Its sounds like maybe the horse was being a big dink and needed a lesson...which the farrier gave because the horses owner doesn't know what she is doing and is making excuses for his behavior.

Hell I had my farrier out the other day- he worked on a new horse we are boarding who happens to be VERY pushy (we are working on it)..now I have a really even tempered farrier but he even got frustrated enough to wollop on this guy. And he had every right.
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post #19 of 49 Old 06-27-2013, 07:38 PM
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Hitting repeatedly with a metal tool, especially if a fit, average sized guy, can definitely cause enough force to break ribs or do some other sort of damage and is definitely not an okay form of correction.
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post #20 of 49 Old 06-27-2013, 07:39 PM
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The farrier had the choice to walk away!

I had my horse for about 4 days and the first time Pilgrim got shoes he was a ball of fright, just on the verge of an explosion.
I knew he was scared but didn't know how bad it really was. My farrier stopped and said that Pilgrim needed me to work with him some more before he would put shoes on him. No problem, I worked with P several times a day for a week and then the farrier was able to put new shoes on him at the end of the week.
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