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post #1 of 22 Old 02-28-2020, 11:26 AM Thread Starter
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Exclamation Another horse slaughtered in Florida.

Just saw this posted another horse taken from his property. Fences cut lead down road tied to a tree, then slaughtered. Happened in Naples Florida just last night.

Thought I'd share knowing there are quite a few Florida horse owners on here. Here's map showing where it happened.
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Just saw this posted another horse taken from his property. Fences cut lead down road tied to a tree, then slaughtered. Happened in Naples Florida just last night.

Thought I'd share knowing there are quite a few Florida horse owners on here. Here's map showing where it happened.
Sad to read. Praying they find the criminal fast. Poor horse
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Naples is a town along the coast where the actual site of theft, death and butchering of the animal was a ways away in a more rural area.
Immokalee Rd & Rock Rd is the actual intersection and pasture from which the fence was cut, the animal was walked next door, tied to a tree and killed...
This took place in Collier County, Florida. Law enforcement is very involved and has actually posted details and pictures already on the web.
This area is more southern Florida and is bordered by Brevard, Hendry and Miami-Dade counties where this killing and harvesting of meat has been going on for more than 20 years off and on that I am aware of...this is not new, but it is also not right.
The owner of the deceased animal has offered a reward of $10,000...

There are very graphic pictures being shown with this story at this time in the media...if you not have a strong stomach, do not view them, do not scroll to that area of the story if you go further on your own to read.
I have seen them and will not post them they are so upsetting.
It is though what has happened in the past with the previous slaughtered animals...meat harvested.
Sad to report, but it has occurred again...and till the creeps are caught/found we will still face this as a daily threat to our animals.

Worse is the threat is known to have crossed state lines into neighboring states now as stealing, killing and harvesting has taken place in other locales too.....
All animal owners need to take notice, step-up and do what is right for your animals and not think because your animal is difficult to catch they are safe...they are not.
These people are not inexperienced by how fast they strike, take down and do their horrible deed...this takes minutes not hours.
As Floridians have found, discovered by horrors happening, prepare before not after the horror strikes.
Do not let your guard down as proof of once is not enough but continued stealing and death is happening far to often.
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What's so strange to me is the $10K reward...when for so much less a security system could have been in place. The thieves always cut the fence it seems.

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I can't even wrap my head around this.
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What's so strange to me is the $10K reward...when for so much less a security system could have been in place. The thieves always cut the fence it seems.

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No, actually they don't always cut a fence like you think...
They have driven right up to a barn, taken down gates and other things I'm not going to tell about here.
Caught on cameras...

The family obviously thought the horses safe where they were...
Same as everyone else...

The bottom line is the owner of the deceased horse wants answers and is enticing information/answers by putting enough money seen that it just might work...
Just like everyone else, it does no good once the crime is committed against an animal and honestly, you don't know if this family had cameras and safeguards in place that were rendered useless.
Not every detail was shared you can be sure...a ongoing Criminal Investigation and Crime Scene still exists.
If you read the update @ 5:33PM it is told and alluded to make certain safety measures are working.
Use cameras, fortify fences to keep out intruders, pay attention to your dogs and their attitudes and network with your neighbors to watch for each others animals.
The fact those details are being put in print makes me think there were safety measures in place but were disabled...


My heart just breaks for these people and their loss as it occurred.
Some images they saw will never be forgotten...
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I'm sure it all depends on how much priority is placed on these killings, finding out who buys the meat, and how severe the punishment would be if/when they are caught. If I were the judge I would maximize the sentencing for everything they did. It has to be so severe it's not worth the risk.

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Ergh I can't even. What in the actual heck is wrong with people?

In the state of Montana, horse theft is still a hangable offense. Anyone who committed such an atrocity on one of my horses would never make it to trial if I got my hands on them. I can't imagine how those poor horses' owners must have felt coming out to feed the following morning, searching for and finding their dear ponies. My heart aches for their loss.

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fuddy...

LEO is very involved, very motivated to catch and dispatch these killers gone.
Please don't make it seem no one cares or is doing anything because you are wrong, very wrong. This is a huge priority to catch them..
The communities are working closely together, watching each others animals, alerting to unfamiliar activities, helping with surveillance and better fencing...
Being a vigilante is not encouraged because of the innocent it could hurt who happened by...
The state of Florida is 65,755 square miles. 500 miles long and 160 miles wide...
That is one big area for law enforcement agencies to patrol, to cover and protect from "poachers/killers" besides also normal police work. Animals have been targeted, stolen and killed from coast to coast, end to end..
The horse industry is in the billions of dollars a year for this state..you bet with that number this is a priority.

We have special units of LEO for ag crimes, but it isn't like a thousand extra LEO have been added.
Yes, LEO are asking for assistance from the community and that assistance is pouring in...
Each lead, each piece of shared needs checked out...
When you have suspicious activity reported in more than 200+ locations a day..

As for punishment...they don't care.
The law is not playing games with punishment if caught. Severe it shall be.
LEO's know where the meat is going, who is consuming, how much is paid for it...
Money is a huge motivator in crime, and there is a tremendous amount of money in horse meat that people are willing to take that chance of getting caught.
It is not one person or 2 persons but many who are doing this...a ring.
Catching them in the act...well, they better hope it is LEO's!

But please, don't think this is not a priority, that citizens are not taking a stand and that laws are not waiting to be applied...
The slip-up is coming as the pressure is increased...within seconds they have been missed, but the clues are numerous and mounting leading law to their doorstep.

Sadly though, it isn't the first time and won't be the last that this occurs here as it does in other areas of this nation. Where certain nationality, religious beliefs and cultures congregate so do their... choices is a very distasteful word but fits. And with that follows the pull of money paid for illegal goods in this nation.
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fuddy...

LEO is very involved, very motivated to catch and dispatch these killers gone.
Please don't make it seem no one cares or is doing anything because you are wrong, very wrong. This is a huge priority to catch them..
The communities are working closely together, watching each others animals, alerting to unfamiliar activities, helping with surveillance and better fencing...
Being a vigilante is not encouraged because of the innocent it could hurt who happened by...
The state of Florida is 65,755 square miles. 500 miles long and 160 miles wide...
That is one big area for law enforcement agencies to patrol, to cover and protect from "poachers/killers" besides also normal police work. Animals have been targeted, stolen and killed from coast to coast, end to end..
The horse industry is in the billions of dollars a year for this state..you bet with that number this is a priority.

We have special units of LEO for ag crimes, but it isn't like a thousand extra LEO have been added.
Yes, LEO are asking for assistance from the community and that assistance is pouring in...
Each lead, each piece of shared needs checked out...
When you have suspicious activity reported in more than 200+ locations a day..

As for punishment...they don't care.
The law is not playing games with punishment if caught. Severe it shall be.
LEO's know where the meat is going, who is consuming, how much is paid for it...
Money is a huge motivator in crime, and there is a tremendous amount of money in horse meat that people are willing to take that chance of getting caught.
It is not one person or 2 persons but many who are doing this...a ring.
Catching them in the act...well, they better hope it is LEO's!

But please, don't think this is not a priority, that citizens are not taking a stand and that laws are not waiting to be applied...
The slip-up is coming as the pressure is increased...within seconds they have been missed, but the clues are numerous and mounting leading law to their doorstep.

Sadly though, it isn't the first time and won't be the last that this occurs here as it does in other areas of this nation. Where certain nationality, religious beliefs and cultures congregate so do their... choices is a very distasteful word but fits. And with that follows the pull of money paid for illegal goods in this nation.
hlg...

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I appreciate and understand the explanation. I wasn't criticizing at all.
We're all different from different backgrounds. As a carpenter I know says, everything to him looks like a nail. I spent my life as an electronic technician so everything to me has an electronic solution.
What I'm hearing by these posts is this activity is mostly happening in Florida. Where it happens to me isn't as important as HOW it happens. The horses are fenced. The perpetrators have to get to the horse, cut a fence, lock, gate, open a barn, then walk in, drive in...doesn't matter. Something has to be opened or cut to get in.
Now if this is continuing as it has been, to me it's like Lucy holding the football for Charlie Brown. This time will be different.
No, people have to get to the horse.
So...try something different. Something unexpected.
That's why, to me, it's easy to have a simple system where if fence is cut, gate or barn opened, alarm goes off. It's not that difficult or expensive to do. Cameras are fantastic...but after the fact! I'd rather know instantaneously when entry is made...someone is notified. Now "alarm" is almost limitless, everything from sireen(s), lights to phone dialer, indoor buzzer, etc.
I'm not implying owners aren't compassionate, just the opposite. I'm suggesting trying a different approach.
Our new stable is not that far from the house. From our bedroom to stable doors about 300ft. When it was being built I ditched underground for water, electric, then lots of assorted cables. A hidden magnetic switch on the stable doors every time door opens a buzzer goes off in house.
Even areas without power there are ways to alarm protect, just like solar fence chargers.
The bottom line is someone needs to outsmart and catch these yahoos. No one should have to go through this.

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