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post #21 of 45 Old 03-05-2010, 09:57 PM
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Thank you I just wish I could get my computer to cooperate so I can post the pictures from today!!
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you need to get a photobucket account - it is free. www.photobucket.com and you can upload your pictures onto that, and then you can post your links onto here and they'll come in picture form.

I use photobucket all the time.

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post #23 of 45 Old 03-05-2010, 10:41 PM
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Can I still do that if the only place I have them is on my facebook page? I'm retarded when it comes to computers, lol.
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post #24 of 45 Old 03-05-2010, 11:20 PM
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I'm sooo happy for you MIE. I am glad things are working out. You sure as heck look better than I do right now. I don't even want to know how bad I am...freaking snow and cold as crap weather. Where is SPRING?!?!?!

Keep up the great work. :-D

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Thanks Hon!!! I am with you on the stupid snow...I am so sick of it and am ready for Spring to arrive!

Nelson and I started lessons in December...I think? Gosh..it seems like so long ago, even I can't remember. Then we missed out on all of Jan due to everything - and then started up again in Feb. Started out small, just lots of walk but my coach made me focus alot on my form *still working on that* while incorporating alot of long and low with Nelson.

So now that we are walking, trotting and cantering, I'm stronger than what I was before - but still have a long way to go..for the both of us.

Thanks for your support and kind words Jadedeyes! Very appreciated, honestly :) *HUGS*

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Hey MIE,
I know for me it is so cool to have someone vid me and also someone on the ground when trying to do something where I might need a pointer or too.

I like what Spyder had to say about the shoulder-in being "over-ridden" a lot.

I guess a question would be just to clarify

over-ridden meaning ridden at to much of an angle or...
over-ridden meaning to much practice on the one movement.

I am thinking Spyder more meant the first. Ridden at to much of an angle.

Kim I have watched a lot of videos and explanations on this movement. Jane Savoie has some. You may have already looked at them.

Oh all this can be frustrating sometimes....lol
No matter....you and Nelson look Fantabulous given all that you and he have been through this year....

Keep us posted.
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post #27 of 45 Old 03-06-2010, 11:17 AM
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Thanks HITS! I think we need to have a sit down with our poneh's and discuss the positive and negative - negative being they hurting themselves....and bugs......lol
LOL yes we do! I can see it now..."Now, Sandie, Nelson, you listen here...there will be NO MORE injuring yourselves, and Sandie STOP making your body be such a drama queen, getting all lumpy over a little thing like a bug bite!"

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I like what Spyder had to say about the shoulder-in being "over-ridden" a lot.

I guess a question would be just to clarify

over-ridden meaning ridden at to much of an angle or...
over-ridden meaning to much practice on the one movement.

I am thinking Spyder more meant the first. Ridden at to much of an angle.

HP

Over ridden in two ways.

Certainly many make the angle too much but in fact to overangle the shoulder in "during training" can be good practice to ride the correct angle. I will ride Spy at all angles when practicing and that is to test my control in seeking the correct one. Many times what is practiced and shown will be different but practice in achieving ANY angle means you will be able to correct any fault when showing.

I mainly mean over ridden in too much leg/hands or seat that causes so many problems.

One example is in the video. In trying to get the angle MIE used too much inside rein. Not shown but also a common problem is in attempting to get the shoulder in to continue along the side the horse will go too much forward and end up in the middle of the arena so the rider now over compensates and puts too much brake on (or half halts)

The key to the shoulder in is to ALLOW the forward movement even if it comes off the wall. As long as it is in the position you requested just stop trying to "fix" things.

As I have said so many times...it is the riders job to position the horse so it succeeds in what is being asked for or at least makes valid attemps in the right direction. You can never fault the horse or rider if the above is activly being persued.

What makes the above succeed is the understanding of the working of the horse and the consequences of each action upon the horse.
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In trying to get the angle MIE used too much inside rein.
So I want to keep doing what I am doing - meaning, same aids in asking for the movement - just not over bend his head to the inside so much?
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The key to the shoulder in is to ALLOW the forward movement even if it comes off the wall. As long as it is in the position you requested just stop trying to "fix" things.
This makes alot of sense.

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As I have said so many times...it is the riders job to position the horse so it succeeds in what is being asked for or at least makes valid attemps in the right direction. You can never fault the horse or rider if the above is activly being persued.
I completely agree with you.

I understand that the Shoulder In isn't supposed to be so "Dramatic" as what I've been doing, we just started to work on the movement - I know Nelson can definately do the movement, I Just have to figure out how to ask him correctly. He went 3rd level with one of his many owners, so he can definately do it....and that's why he grinds his teeth with me, because I know I am frustrating him.

So I'll wait for my Coach to be there infront of me, walking me through it as I am doing the movement, so that I have that educated aid beside me, correcting and aiding me to get it right.

I hope to have someone video tape it for me!

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post #30 of 45 Old 03-06-2010, 10:20 PM
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He looks fantastic considering what he just went through. You did such a good job with him, and I'm really glad you're putting him back into action. He was such an active boy, I think it's great for you both. Great riding by the way, again considering the break you just had to take.

Can't wait to see how you guys progress and get back into full motion again. Will be really exciting.
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