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post #11 of 22 Old 08-27-2010, 08:31 PM
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I love German Shepherds. We had to have our girl pts last spring. I miss her so much but I don't miss the hair that came with her. She was so smart and a wonderful protector. She was ok with someone who was welcomed into the house or yard but if someone came to the fence or in the yard watch out.
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post #12 of 22 Old 08-27-2010, 09:54 PM
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I'm going to be the odd one out and say stay away from the GSDs. I'm a dog trainer, I've payed my rent of GSDs more times than I can count. It is VERY hard to find one with a good, stable temperament, good health, good joints, etc. etc. They are so over bred it's insane. Not to mention that the German lines have roached backs and the American show lines have hips that drag the ground. There is nothing about the conformation of a GSD that appeals to me.

Of course I say all this as someone who has two Aussies. So obviously I'm an Aussie person. I can however say that out of the dozens of GSDs and Aussies I've trained the Aussies win hands down when it comes to trainability and the ability to think for themselves. They are high energy, but if you train from puppyhood and give them a good run everyday it's nothing that cannot be channeled.

If you're wanting to do agility the Aussie is also your best bet because they're smaller and more agile that most GSDs.

Are there nice GSDs out there? Of course. There are nice, well behaved, healthy dogs of every breed. Personally I would never own one. The odds are against you when it comes to getting a good one even if you do your research.

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post #13 of 22 Old 08-27-2010, 10:01 PM
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Odd, I've had four and bred several litters, never EVER had an issue or a puppy that had an issue. Our last boy lived to 14, puppy of our first boy. We have monitored the four litters he sired with no agression, no hip dysplasia or anything.
As with all things, everyone has different opinions.
Again, both great breeds, just bred for different things.
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post #14 of 22 Old 08-27-2010, 10:06 PM
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I'm glad you've had good luck with them. Like I said, there are nice dogs in every breed, I've just found it to be far less common in GSDs compared to Aussies.
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post #15 of 22 Old 08-27-2010, 10:57 PM
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We've had GSDs for 30 years (long before I was born into this family)! My family swears by them.

I would DEFINITELY watch the hips though because if you don't get a GS with good hips, be prepared for heartbreak in about 8 years because thats when they'll start going. We've also encountered dementia with my Shep, where he gets lost in our house. The end is near for him :(

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post #16 of 22 Old 09-01-2010, 01:30 AM
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I've personally done a lot of research on both breeds because I am a dog enthusiast. These just happen to be two of my very favorite breeds. In my opinion with your needs I would definitely go with the Australian Shepherd. They are not a huge dog but still large enough and strongly built. Some of the dogs can be intimidated but most of the breed will be an excellent guard dog. They are also good herders, disc catchers, and especially good performers at agility. Plus they are beautiful and have lots of fluffy hair :)

Plus, if you get a GS you may have to register it with your city and pay a monthly fee for owning a "dangerous" dog. Good luck!

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post #17 of 22 Old 09-01-2010, 04:11 PM
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Aussie's are very hyper, if you have a large yard for it to run on their perfectly fine. Beautiful smart dogs, but they need to be doing something almost constantly. And their pretty healthy dogs, plus the breed comes in 3 sizes anymore. Full, mini, and a toy. But I don't recomend them if you don't have alot of time to spend with them. I've had a mini before and now we have a toy. I've always wanted a GSD but the hip problems made me opt out of that one. I've only had GSD crosses. I think you just need to decide more of what you want or perfer. My dog is a husky because I liked the qualities of his breed.
and here's a photo of my mom's toy aussie, he's 12 inches tall. adorable little dog.
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I've personally done a lot of research on both breeds because I am a dog enthusiast. These just happen to be two of my very favorite breeds. In my opinion with your needs I would definitely go with the Australian Shepherd. They are not a huge dog but still large enough and strongly built. Some of the dogs can be intimidated but most of the breed will be an excellent guard dog. They are also good herders, disc catchers, and especially good performers at agility. Plus they are beautiful and have lots of fluffy hair :)

Plus, if you get a GS you may have to register it with your city and pay a monthly fee for owning a "dangerous" dog. Good luck!
I have actually checked that, both places that I have chosen to live don't count GS as dangerous!
I think I am leaning more towards GS again. I love them, but they do seem to have some problems.

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post #19 of 22 Old 09-01-2010, 06:58 PM
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All dogs have problems, same as horses. I think it should come down to a dog you click with, reguardless of breed.
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post #20 of 22 Old 09-01-2010, 07:12 PM
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My mom has been breeding GSD's for over 30 years and is still doing so, and to this date so far we have had not a single problem with our pups. They have been very smart and easy going, with very high drives. Like another said about the hearding, shepherds have that as well but if you can channel it, it will be ok. our oldest female has a very high drive and she would heard our horses till we found out if we give her a basketball she would play withthat instead of the horses. Any of the larger breeds are at risk for bad hips and such but with good care they can still have a long and happy life. Here are some of ours we have now.
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