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post #31 of 38 Old 11-04-2010, 06:37 PM
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So... Your BO just took the liberty to tell this woman she could take YOUR horse for a trial? Did she run that past you first??? The only person that has any business letting someone try out a horse is the owner. I would be mad as hell if someone did that to me. I had that happen once, actually.

You have all the authority in the world in regard to your horse. What you say goes. Period. If you aren't comfortable with something, put a stop to it. If you don't want to sell your horse, don't! That's no one else's business. It sounds like the woman and her daughter just aren't the right people to lease him. (Sorry if I repeated anything. I didn't read through all the posts).

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post #32 of 38 Old 11-05-2010, 12:00 AM Thread Starter
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Yeah. I should have put my foot down and I didn't. Ugh.

Today we moved him for the trial. I went out and rode so I could scope out the girl during her lesson. She is the tiniest 7 year old I have seen in my life. I actually REALLY like her and the mother. The mother seemed to fall in love with Diesel and tomorrow little girl is going to try him. I told her I was probably not going to sell.

The mother is a total newb though. Your typical one hand on the horn, the other hand up by their ears trying to neck rein. I also explained to her the difference between snaffle and curb as well as colicing, founder, etc.

Old/Pushy BO was also adamant that I ride in a curb. I have no idea why. Tomorrow if she tries to let the little kid ride in a curb (like her and all the other 6-8 year olds in her lesson were) I will be putting a stop to that. Ugh.

It was nice to have him back in an arena and in a stall. I wish I could bring him with me so he could be as pampered. I dont think the stall and nice arena are worth the newb owners listening to pushy BO for horse advice though. I hate this.
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post #33 of 38 Old 11-05-2010, 07:54 AM
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These people, however nice they may be, are going to ruin your horse - all while under the guidance of the BO. A curb bit on a horse that doesn't need one, and in the hands of a novice, is a no-no.

First, if were me, it never would have gotten this far. You are being bullied and led by your old BO. I would bet the ranch that, no matter what you say, the BO has your horse "sold" to these people.

That being said - I would not allow it to go any further. No more trial rides, no curb bits, no more being bullied by the BO ... period. You are on the path to the sale of your horse no matter what you are are complaining about. Letting these people have a trial is the final step before you get a check for him.

You need to either accept that or stop it - now, before the trial. Regardless of all the promises they make, the moment that horse is in their control, that curb bit in in his mouth and that is that.

I'm not arguing with you, I'm just explaining why I'm right.

Nothing sucks more than that moment during an argument when you realize you're wrong.

It's not always what you say but what they hear.

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post #34 of 38 Old 11-05-2010, 08:39 AM
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I'd just also like to add, if you let them trial for a week with no intention of selling, that poor little girl might fall in love with your horse, and then you'll have to tear them apart.
It's not really fair to let her start thinking that horse could be hers if there's no chance of it actually happening.

When you told them you probably were not going to sell, how did they respond? Why would they even continue a trial if you're probably not going to sell?
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post #35 of 38 Old 11-05-2010, 04:53 PM Thread Starter
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My horse is already there for the trial.

The little girl has no idea that her parents are looking to buy her a horse or that Diesel has anything to do with that and has only really met him once.

I had a discussion with old BO and the mother and he is to only be ridden in a snaffle. I also told them that I do not like the idea of selling to such beginners but will still be open to the idea of a lease. I have been very open with them about all of this and they have been very cooperative about it and have said they would want me to be comfortable either way. So they are mucking around on him and I will be taking him home as soon as I can get a trailer there.

I understand it is my fault that it has gotten this far. The BO is the one I am feeling pressure from and I told this to the possible owners. I am currently supervising him and their riding and would still be open to a lease, but have described the reasons I would not want to sell (leaving out my feelings for the BO).

I believe they are still interested in the trial because they mentioned the fact that they weren't completely against a lease, but much preferred to buy.

I know I made the wrong choice by allowing myself to be bullied into this, but I will not be taking a check for him regardless of how wretched of a person it may make me seem.
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post #36 of 38 Old 11-05-2010, 07:15 PM
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Perhaps if you really like these people tell them you would lease the horse, but you will not allow him to be kept at your old BOs barn.

I think leaving him there is a bad idea. These people will take all the advice from the BO and could end up ruining your horse. You might lease him out for a year, they ruin him, and then you'll be in another country and unable to re-lease him.

If she encourages curb bits it will only be a matter of time before they start using them on him, and I doubt a 7 year old has the ability to safely use one. I'm just an English rider, but I'd be very cautious.

I think you should pick up the horse, and tell the potential owners/leasers what you feel.
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post #37 of 38 Old 11-05-2010, 09:38 PM Thread Starter
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I told them I would be willing to discuss lease terms if they're interested and I was going to suggest the same thing. I know a good barn in town that I would trust with a beginner. I haven't suggested it yet just because I don't know if they are going to want to go ahead with the lease. Good idea though.

BO's husband trailered him to the current barn so I have to see if my truck will pull him back or not. Its a new truck so Im not sure about it and will run it by my dad.
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post #38 of 38 Old 11-05-2010, 09:58 PM
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12!!! Your horse is in the prime of life! My old man is 31, ans I still low level compete on him, Cricket is 24, and I still sort cattle on her.

I would never sell my heart horse if I had the choice (PJ the 31yr old) Plus you have mentioned many red flags. If you sell the horse to these people you will regret it later. You need to find the "Perfect" home for him if you do sell. Maybe an older 4-Her that wants an all around horse.
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