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post #1 of 5 Old 10-01-2020, 07:38 AM Thread Starter
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I know it's probably a bit of a long shot but would anyone be able to help at all with a brand search for my mare?

She was sold to us as a thoroughbred X Australian stock horse, but we recently had a new physio out to see her that said she recognises her brand as from a thoroughbred stud. She also said judging from the places she was out she wouldn't be surprised if she had raced.

We were told she was used to pony racehorses on the track and used as a polocrosse referee horse, but I don't know if that would be enough to put her out in the same places as a racer.

We got told she was broken in at 2 which would fit for either, and the man we bought her off is a racehorse trainer as well as a polocrosse player. Our new theory is that she was trialled as a racehorse, was a bit of a dud, so was tried in polocrosse and wasn't a good fit for that either. The man we bought her off also as her as a beginner's horse which she definitely was not, so I wouldn't be surprised if he'd lied about her being off the track to try and shift her quicker.

She's a 2012 chestnut mare, small white star on the left side of her forehead and a white sock on the left/near hind. Numbers on off side are 4 over 2, brand on near side looks like 5C, however the physio thought it was SCI.

We bought her from someone in Gippsland, Victoria but we don't know where she came from before then. Sorry if the photos are unclear, she's a bit fuzzy at the minute.

Thanks in advance for any help, any information will be much appreciated
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post #2 of 5 Old 10-01-2020, 07:48 AM
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Those could easily be "breeder's brands." Especially the 42, which may indicate the dam.
The 5C could be a ranch brand. It most likely would in the States.

I'm not familiar with brand registries in AU. Sorry
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post #3 of 5 Old 10-01-2020, 10:32 AM
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SC or 5C but I'm not seeing SCI.

I agree with boots, these are probably brands that note breeding and possibly the ranch/owner. If you have some kind of brand registration in Australia you might be able to look it up there, they may even have a web search. If you think it is a particular breeder you could contact them and they will tell you if it is theirs usually.
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Here in the USA many Thoroughbreds are beginning broke as late yearlings and are racing as late 2 year olds.
They are working, conditioning and learning to run at the home farm and shipped to the track for serious works done.

I don't know the rules of Thoroughbred racing in AU but here in the USA if a horse steps foot on a racecourse property they must be tattooed, lip tattooed which then takes much of the guess work out of age and real name, racing career or not..
I think it is very similar elsewhere but could be wrong.
Many horses are "duds" as far as racers go...no desire to run like they must, a conformation fault that now compromises their soundness and speed ability, a physical issue...most just are not fast enough nor have the temperament to race and win.
Racehorses here don't get branded, not like that on their body.

Your horse could of worked on the track as a track-pony, very possible.
Played polo, why not. To my understanding any breed can be a polo pony...you again just need the speed, agility and want to make it happen.
The brands though make me think more Quarter Horse than Thoroughbred.
The only other horses I can ever remember seeing with multiple brands, multiple locations were either warm-bloods who went through that grading/certifying process identifying stud and mare and think it is Lipizzaner is tattooed like that on shoulder, flank and someplace I remember something about males being kept intact were somehow marked on their spine/upper back???
Don't quote me on the Lipizzaner thing and that may have been country specific where that was done...

Cute horse........
Best of luck uncovering a past history...
What I would do is contact the person you bought the horse from and ask those questions..
If she came from a racing farm/stable, the guy you said trained, the papers may have been destroyed so no trace of the animal, but the animal lives today.
It is a cloudy/murky area of how many horses were racers and left the track with no history, no papers and what was known about them gone in order to save a animal from a dire fate..
You have nothing to lose by asking, some to gain but the horse is yours to have and enjoy...sometimes not knowing their past is better too. Honest.
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post #5 of 5 Old 10-01-2020, 07:51 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks everyone, I didn't realise branding was so different in other places.

In Australia the near side brand is specific to the stud the horse is from and the off side gives the number foal of that season over the year it was born ( so she was the 4th foal from the 2012 season). There aren't really any specific brands for certain breeds as far as I know, other that Standardbreds that get freeze branded on their necks. Lip tattoos would definitely make things a lot more simple

As far as I know, here tb racing doesn't start until 2 but the guy we bought from was dodgy anyway so she might have been broken sooner.

Ive also heard of tb studs putting stock horse mares in foal so that if anything happens to a tb dam, they have a few foster mums ready, which could also explain the brand.

The stud book is only open to registered breeders ( I think, all I know is I can't get in), which is why I'm not able to do a brand search myself.

Would anyone know anybody in Australia who might have access? I understand that you have to pay to register so I hope this doesn't come across ungrateful or bratty or anything.

I don't really care what her breeding is, I'd just like to know for sure.

Thanks so much everyone
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