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post #31 of 45 Old 01-26-2010, 04:55 PM
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Great pics Wild Spot!

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post #32 of 45 Old 01-26-2010, 06:39 PM
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Horses, cows, chickens, pigs and sheep all think and have feelings but horses and pigs have a level or intelligance so much so that they can asocciate with humans in the way they do,
That is a ridiculous statement. Cows are smarter than horses first off, and chickens really don't fall that far behind them. Not sure about sheep, but being herd animals I am sure they aren't too far from horses in intelligence either. They have just as much capacity to bond and associate with a person. The only difference it that all of you that are appalled by the concept of eating a horse cannot see them for what they are, livestock.

There are cows and sheep that are amazingly bred that are sent to the plant by the hundreds every day, what makes a horse any more special? And what does it being American have to do with it? If anything more American horses need to go to slaughter, after all we seem to be the country with the biggest equine overpopulation problem anyway!


Horses are livestock, people eat livestock. American horses are livestock too. Pet horses are still livestock. Ol' Speedy in the back yard is a stock animal and there fore open to ending up on the dinner plate.

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post #33 of 45 Old 01-26-2010, 06:54 PM
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Exactly. Cows, sheep, pig, chicken, fish, horse.. It doesnt matter what animal it is, all of it is cruel and wrong to me. Me? i think all animals have feelings, not just horses. Yes, we ride them, we groom them etc, but that doesn't make it any worse using them for meat. Im against all animal slaughter, proud vegetarian; (:

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post #34 of 45 Old 01-26-2010, 07:03 PM
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It is absolutely sick isn't it. In France, where I grew up-you can go to any grocery store and find horse meat packed and looking the same way you find beef or steak and there is just as much on the shelves to.

It is really sad. I can gladly say that I have never had horse.
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post #35 of 45 Old 01-26-2010, 07:34 PM
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Well honestly I just don't think the Japanese culture has the same relationship with equines as we do.
Ancient samurai used to sleep with their horses in their tents, and they do still ride in Japan. (I seem to remember they beat Canada in some major show jumping competition once). You can respect a horse and still eat it - Many Europeans do. I'd have no issues with eating horses if our slaughter methods were more humane like they are in Iceland or England.

However, I think we already have enough spare horses that we don't need to raise more just for meat.
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post #36 of 45 Old 01-27-2010, 12:06 AM
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If you raise them for meat they don't just sit around clogging the market, they have an "expiration date" and are only around for a little while. Personally I would rather eat something raised clean and natural than an old stressed out nag that has muscles like rubber... Hence the reason they are raised specifically for food.

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post #37 of 45 Old 01-27-2010, 12:18 AM
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If I chose to eat horse meat, I would 100% choose meat that had been purpose raised for slaughter.

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post #38 of 45 Old 01-27-2010, 08:18 PM
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I raised a calf for the first 4 months in my back yard(1/2 acre)with my dogs. He behaved like my dogs and had a wounderful personality, just like a horse. I was wanting to train him to be a riding steer, before i got my horse. He would have been shot a few days after birth since he was a bull on a milk farm. My fiance said we would take him to raise for meat but I wanted him to be a cow first. I would not want to eat horse meat simlpy because when I think about it I think of MY horse. Every animal has their own pesonality, so why would cows or any other animal be butchered for meat and not horses. If done with respect for the animal and in great conditions I am fine with horses being raised for slaughter. I live in one of the western provinces(Saskatchewan), and all of the farms I have been on the animals are treated as well as my own horse, or dogs. I have never seen heard of a horse meat farm here, and my aunt and uncle are even butchers.
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post #39 of 45 Old 01-28-2010, 02:12 AM
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I'm going with Kevin and all the others. While I respect and love my horses (which are performance bred), they are still livestock.
Slaughter is fine, with any animal, as long as it is responsibly done (meaning, the animals are specifically bred for meat, they are treated properly, cared for, and slaughtered humanely and as quick as possible). I'd rather see horses being specifically raised for meat, and kept on a meat farm in the same manner as cattle, rather than in the hands of an honestly horrible person like Monty Merola (warning: graphic!), or waiting around in a slaughter house and dying of malnutrition after being left homeless by some backyard breeder.
Honestly, if we didn't have so many people irresponsibly breeding fugly, unhandled horses that end up without a home, we wouldn't have so many horses getting sent away to be slaughtered cruelly and horse meat farms like these (which are a lot more common than you think) wouldn't have such a bad name. I think we should hold some respect for farms like these; they are doing this responsibly.
I even more glad to see they are being raised drug free. Condone the idiot equine breeders and horse hoarders (backyard "rescues") instead.

There are show circuits for cattle, chickens, and the lot, yet we still raise them for meat and eat them. There are even farms that raise dogs specifically for meat.

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post #40 of 45 Old 01-28-2010, 02:20 AM
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There are cows and sheep that are amazingly bred that are sent to the plant by the hundreds every day, what makes a horse any more special? And what does it being American have to do with it? If anything more American horses need to go to slaughter, after all we seem to be the country with the biggest equine overpopulation problem anyway!
Yes. Whoever banned slaughter in the U.S. was not thinking. Besides, they send them to Canada or Mexico anyway, they just end up paying more money for it.

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