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post #91 of 98 Old 03-07-2013, 01:34 PM
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I'm with the other two. If you can do something to stop it do it.

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post #92 of 98 Old 03-07-2013, 02:00 PM
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When I moved down to kansas I immediatly got two jobs and sacrificed my sanity by living in my friends basement to keep my two horses (only one was came down with me at the time- but I was paying friends to keep the other)....I probably could have applied for food stamps..But I have more pride than that- I could and did make do.

I worked at a bakery in the am, and worked at a grocery store in the pm... There were these sleaze bags that would come to the bakery and then I would see them later buying groceries with their vision card.. you would see them at odd hours of the day walking around town, so I am assuming they didnt have jobs...

I eventually got on full time at the grocery store (days) so I had to quit my bakery job, I then took an evening job as a waitress.. to my dismay these same sleaze bags came into eat a good once a week... AND NEVER TIPPED!! GAH..

AND I am sorry.. but I get so sick of hearing people whine about not being able to find a job....SOMETIMES you just have to take what comes your way, even if its menial.. After working the bakery and the grocery store, people in town know me and my work ethic.. every other job I have had since moving down here I have gotten by just walking in.. (on paper I look completely unstable lol- I have had sooo many jobs in the last 2 1/2 years- I always look for greater oppertunies).. and I have been offered a few jobs.

If you work hard, people take notice and want you to work for them..
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post #93 of 98 Old 03-07-2013, 03:29 PM
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AND I am sorry.. but I get so sick of hearing people whine about not being able to find a job....SOMETIMES you just have to take what comes your way, even if its menial..

If you work hard, people take notice and want you to work for them..


Ok, first of all, I have beef with these two statements. Before I moved to PA, I had a VERY GOOD job history and a VERY GOOD resume with what I did. Come to Erie...got laughed out of the office I was supposed to be transferring to. Why? They didn't have anything FOR ME. With the medical issue that I had at the time, i just couldn't do their "menial" job....they didn't have anything that made near what my wage was...and they thought my wage was FUNNY. As in "gosh, why would anyone pay that much?"...

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I don't know, because I"m good at my job? Or because of who I worked for? OR because their standards were higher for that position, have excellent references and letters of recommendation and experience?

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So I applied for those menial jobs and couldn't get a call back. What I did get, when I turned in the applications directly to a manager, was commentary along the lines of "I see you've made $X....you *do* know this is a minimum wage job, right?"...

Yeah. I'm VERY well aware of the job I'm applying for...gosh.

No bites, so I went back to school full time and took all the hard classes that are usually only offered during my working hours anyway.

My point is, sometimes you're "overqualified", and sometimes no one is **** hiring.


The second part that really bugs me...."Work hard and people will notice". Yeah. They will notice. Then the lazy bums will resent you, your boss will think you're trying to take his job, or your boss will use you to do all his work and take the glory. This coming from a girl who had a boss once...the evil SOB (evil, evil, nasty vile man) used to sit in his office all day shopping on his rich girlfriend's dime....and delegate his entire job to me.

Work Ethic is no longer valued to so many people in this country.
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post #94 of 98 Old 03-07-2013, 03:46 PM
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I used to work part time as a grocery store cashier. Believe me I saw all the free loaders at their worse. Wic they were supposed to get a lb. of store brand cheese, fruit juice they were supposed to get REAL fruit juice. Some would fight you tooth and nail because they wanted to use the far more expensive small packages of cracker barrel cheese to make up their pound of cheese. They wanted the canned "cool aid" type juices instead of what they were supposed to get. They wanted BABY CARROTS instead of the regular carrots and so on.

Many many many times would a couple come through with the best steaks, roasts, lobster tails, etc. which they paid for with their food stamps. On the bottom of the buggy would be their cases of beer and cartons of cigarettes which they paid cash for. Healthy strong young people.

It made my blood boil especially when the little old lady who lived nearby would come in, look at something and check her little change purse and then put the item back. She loved lemonade and would sometimes ask hopefully how much lemons were that day. Needless to say the days she asked lemons just always happened to be on sale that day. Great sale!:) And yeah I paid the difference myself.

I had pushed her into asking about food stamps and she finally did. They wanted to give her ten dollars a month. She had an income of three hundred dollars a month.

I saw ONE case of a couple getting food stamps that touched my heart and I actually cried I was so proud of them.

It was a couple, probably late thirties. They started coming in with food stamps and they actually used them wisely. One day they came in and they were glowing they were so happy. The man held up a one dollar food stamp (they used actual stamps then not cards) and told me that it was their LAST food stamp. They both had gotten jobs. They said they were trying to decide what to spend their last stamp on.

They walked around the store a while and then came back to the register and said they had decided not to spend this last stamp. They were going to frame it so they would never forget.

Now THAT is how this type of help is intended to be used.

Just DO it and be happy that you can!
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post #95 of 98 Old 03-07-2013, 06:10 PM
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While I do think that Demon has a very valid point, I think that depends on where you work. I have had the same job for two years and while I still make crappy wages for what I do (CNA), my teenage brother in law makes almost as much as me at McDonalds. So while I am literally risking my body for people to make them healthy, dealing with family members that for no reason hate my absolute guts, and am cleaning up ****, he still makes almost as much as me at McDonalds.

However on the side of working hard, in those two plus years that I have held my job I have crawled to the top of the hierarchy and can say with some confidence that I instill fear in the lazy ones :) On the other hand, like Demon was saying, I can almost guarantee that if I switched to another unit or even another hospital or a nursing home I would again be at the bottom of the totem pole, even though I worked my *** off at the hospital in my unit.

So point is, you can work hard and make it WHERE YOU ARE AT, but if you need to go somewhere else for some other circumstance or the other, you might just be SOL because you are at the bottom again and have to start from scratch, no matter how good you were before.

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post #96 of 98 Old 03-07-2013, 08:04 PM
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Acorn - I can SOOOOOOOOO relate! Last year I had a part time job in a fairly large grocery store chain. I saw this kind of stuff DAILY. While there's no "stamps" any more but these nice EBT cards now, it's same same.

I would check folks out who bought lobster and tbone/porter house steaks and pay with the EBT card. Know when the last time I had lobster was? 2001. I remember that because it was my honeymoon. Haven't had it since, can't afford it. I think the last time I got to cook my hubby a really good steak was probably 3 years ago. Can't afford that stuff any more either. Yep, could sell the horses we have to do that, sure. But it's the sacrifice we chose to make so we deal without it. We certainly can't have BOTH.

Now those folks that just bought the nice steaks and lobster on the EBT card? They march right over to the service desk and slap $50 cash down to play the lottery. Gotta love it.
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post #97 of 98 Old 03-07-2013, 08:19 PM
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Acorn - I can SOOOOOOOOO relate! Last year I had a part time job in a fairly large grocery store chain. I saw this kind of stuff DAILY. While there's no "stamps" any more but these nice EBT cards now, it's same same.

I would check folks out who bought lobster and tbone/porter house steaks and pay with the EBT card. Know when the last time I had lobster was? 2001. I remember that because it was my honeymoon. Haven't had it since, can't afford it. I think the last time I got to cook my hubby a really good steak was probably 3 years ago. Can't afford that stuff any more either. Yep, could sell the horses we have to do that, sure. But it's the sacrifice we chose to make so we deal without it. We certainly can't have BOTH.

Now those folks that just bought the nice steaks and lobster on the EBT card? They march right over to the service desk and slap $50 cash down to play the lottery. Gotta love it.
Wow really? People like this need a kick in the pants and the government security rug pulled out from under their feet.
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post #98 of 98 Old 03-08-2013, 01:28 AM
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I am a foster parent of teens, and this is a rough time of year for me. The parents often ask me if I am claiming their kid as they went to file their taxes and they cannot claim them. I do not claim any kids, I don't have any kids of my own.

In years past, I would have the conversation with the parents, now I just get to the office early to drop off kids, and then arrive late to pick up the kids to avoid the conversation.

The parents cannot claim the kids because the kids are not living with them. They are not feeding them, clothing them, paying for medical etc. Zero expenses related to the kid = no deduction. Tax payers are paying for me to raise someone elses child so there are no deductions for the parents.

You would not believe the heated conversations that happen about this. I don't get heated, I have to stay professional, but the parents do. Fine, then you raise your own child and put me out of a job - which is something I never fear.
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