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post #21 of 98 Old 03-05-2013, 11:28 AM
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I know this is a big problem up here as well. And an even bigger thing with it is the drug issue, both the abuse of opioids and illegal drugs. Yet the ND government recently shot down a bill to do mandatory drug testing on anyone on government assistance. Heck I think it's perfectly reasonable, you want your money, you have to do something to get it. Why don't they go work at Mickey D's or something and then get just the help that they need instead of cheating off of those of us that work our asses off? For petes sake some of the people in this country actually work for what we have and still make it off of less money than they get! We only get to keep a bit more then half of our paychecks and we still make it. And the cost of living is going up here because of the oil boom. You see us on government assistance? nope.
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post #22 of 98 Old 03-05-2013, 11:35 AM
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This just drives me up the wall.

Why is it that people who use every type of welfare are the ones that think they can afford to own horses?

You expect taxpayers to foot school lunches, food stamps, WIC, Section 8, Medicaid, but feel you are entitled to own horses?

Bull.

I see this time after time. If I have to feed your kids? You darn sure can't afford to feed horses.

And same people? Claim no income to get welfare help but let tax time roll around and all of a sudden they have 50,000.00 in "self employment" stripping wires, scrapping junk? So that lets them claim EIC of 6000.00.

These are typically the people who don't feed their horses...
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post #23 of 98 Old 03-05-2013, 11:45 AM
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Welfare is NOT an 'entitlement', it's CHARITY.

An entitlement is something someone has EARNED, usually by virtue of actually working. What a radical concept!

Social security is an entitlement, workers compensation is an entitlement, unemployment is an entitlement. Welfare is charity.

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post #24 of 98 Old 03-05-2013, 12:09 PM
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Our girl scout troop as our "service project" adopted a family for Christmas. All of the girls in our troop came from families of modest means so it took most of our troop funds to purchase gifts for the two kids, the clothing the mom had requested, a holiday meal, a basket of pantry staples and $100 in cash that we were going to use after visiting the family to pay a bill or buy a needed item.

We arrived as a troop to a house in the SAME neighborhood income level as our troop and to our absolute disgust, a brand new car in the driveway, a tree that was buried under presents, a gigantic flat screen television (the likes of which none of us could afford) and 2 kids in designer clothing. After catching sight of our faces the mom announced that she was signed up for EVERY program available as she was a "single mom" and it's soooooooooooo hard being a single mom. Um yeah.... obviously...

We left her with the bare basics (the clothing and the holiday meal) and left her screaming mad and calling the organization that given us her name. One of the moms knew of a family that was struggling so we went over there, gave them the rest of the items, paid off her back electric bill with the $100 in cash we had and had a couple of the dads come replace the glass in a boarded up window. The mom was beyond grateful and in tears (her husband had passed away suddenly).

I don't have an issue helping someone who truly needs help, I do have a problem with those who go around with a "Poor pitiful me, I DESERVE everything I can get my grubby hands on" attitude.
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post #25 of 98 Old 03-05-2013, 12:19 PM
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I do if they're not willing to work instead of taking a handout the rest of their lives that those like me who actually DO work are paying. Welfare was originally intended to give people a hand UP, not be a forever handout for the lazy and self-entitled dregs of society.

I think if you don't WANT to work, then you should starve. Period. If there's nothing wrong with you physically or mentally other than you're a lazy piece of garbage, it shouldn't be up to those who actually work to fund your lifestyle.
Yes. This.
I'm on disability right now. EI, whatever you want to call it.
Finally got the A-OK to start walking (I sort of did, anyways. Hard not to when you're on a ranch with horses) but there's no way he'll clear me for work yet, especially giving the work that I was doing.
So, I've been doing something thinking and if I can't do the work I was doing for another two years at least, it's back off to school I go. It was a nice vacation (Ha! What a lie. Two months in the hospital sucked LOL) but I'm done and ready to go do something. Mentally, just not physically.

I'm also a big believer that if I have to pass a drug test to work, EVERYBODY ought to be passing random drugs tests to get that welfare check.

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post #26 of 98 Old 03-05-2013, 12:19 PM
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One of the moms knew of a family that was struggling so we went over there, gave them the rest of the items, paid off her back electric bill with the $100 in cash we had and had a couple of the dads come replace the glass in a boarded up window. The mom was beyond grateful and in tears (her husband had passed away suddenly).

I don't have an issue helping someone who truly needs help, I do have a problem with those who go around with a "Poor pitiful me, I DESERVE everything I can get my grubby hands on" attitude.
This is a wonderful thing that you did. I agree with your statement of attitude completely. Why does it seem that people that are willing to work for themselves are the ones that end up in a bad situation?
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post #27 of 98 Old 03-05-2013, 12:21 PM
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One of the moms knew of a family that was struggling so we went over there, gave them the rest of the items, paid off her back electric bill with the $100 in cash we had and had a couple of the dads come replace the glass in a boarded up window. The mom was beyond grateful and in tears (her husband had passed away suddenly).
That was really nice of you guys. :)
I watched Undercover Bosses last night and it's nice to see that some sort of humanity remains in humans.

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post #28 of 98 Old 03-05-2013, 12:23 PM
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that show is such a relief. It does show that some people realize what goes on in the world. It is also so nice to see a boss have to go through the grunt work. I would love to see the CEO of where I work come do my job hahaha

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post #29 of 98 Old 03-05-2013, 12:37 PM
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I see this first hand....boyfriend's sister has 3 children- her and husband both do hardcore drugs but will NOT get a job. Husband has jobs periodically, maybe for a month at a time. It's been a year since he's worked. They collect EVERYTHING they possibly can, & because one of the children is disabled, they get that too. They have 6 cats or so, 4 dogs etc...then have to come to my boyfriend to beg for money for gas/food etc. He's finally stopped because he knows **** well it's going to drugs.

I am a FIRM believer in having these people drug tested. I guarantee the number of people receiving these benefits would decrease by 50% ATLEAST.

It sickens me that these people think it's okay what they are doing.
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post #30 of 98 Old 03-05-2013, 12:39 PM
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Oh my dear I agree. It's also sad that there aren't stricter regulations on this as well as more employees conducting searches and such on these people.

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