Child VS Horse $$$ - Page 3 - The Horse Forum
 52Likes
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #21 of 29 Old 03-31-2012, 09:26 PM
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: USA
Posts: 25,304
• Horses: 7
I don't think you notice the costs with children really. I think you just spend. You don't even notice that you miss a lesson or a show for a ball game or a fever, you just do it and you don't even have that pang that you are missing out on something... It's pretty cool... having kids... even when you have to haul them to a tutor twice a week..... :)

"Be a best friend, tell the truth, and overuse I love you
Go to work, do your best, don't outsmart your common sense
Never let your prayin knees get lazy
And love like crazy"
farmpony84 is offline  
post #22 of 29 Old 03-31-2012, 09:29 PM
Showing
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Cariboo, British Columbia
Posts: 13,791
• Horses: 3
Kids are way more expensive, way more time consuming, and way more rewarding. Every child that comes into this world, should be wanted whole-heartedly, not agreed upon to make their partner happy. Once a child enters your life, your spouse, your horses, your everything you have known will be secondary. If it's not, then you have no business having children. Children are life changers, nothing about your life will be the same.
outnabout, bsms, FlyGap and 3 others like this.
waresbear is offline  
post #23 of 29 Old 03-31-2012, 10:01 PM
Foal
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 26
• Horses: 0
Since I just had my 3rd baby 10 weeks ago and my husband and I just bought 2 horses I figured I would throw in my 2 cents worth.

The amount you spend on your horses/showing right now is alot more than I spend on all 3 of my children a year right now. My children are aged 6, 20 months and 10 weeks. I spend probably $3000 on my children a year. I am also in Canada and have been very lucky so far with my babies. My kids rarely get sick so I spend little to nothing each year on prescriptions ( no coverage). My oldest does not require glasses or anything other than a checkup at the dentist once a year ( the school has someone clean teeth twice a year). School fees are $70 a year. Fundraisers are twice a year but that's optional. My oldest also plays baseball in the spring so that's an additional $90. He also costs about an additional $50 a month for groceries for his lunches. My two little ones cost about $150 a month for diapers and wipes. I breastfeed my baby so no cost there. I buy mostly cheap clothes because they don't wear it long. I am also a stay at home mom so no daycare fees.

Now in saying that I have to add that my horses aren't costing me anything at the moment. The initial cost of my horses and tack was more expensive then my childrens annual expense but it's a one time deal. Also I am sure my children will get more expensive with age.

I will also add that right now I am lucky if I get to ride once a week. I have an opportunity to go on a tide tomorrow but I can't because I have no babysitter and my husband is away for the weekend. Riding and horses do take the back burner. It will be that way for quite a few years yet.

I grew up with horses, never had them for many years and finally can afford them again, I love my animals dearly but it doesn't even compare to the love I have for each of my children no matter how much I want to pull my hair out when we are having a bad day.
Posted via Mobile Device
Newatthis is offline  
post #24 of 29 Old 03-31-2012, 10:34 PM
Yearling
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: North Texas
Posts: 916
• Horses: 0
Quote:
Originally Posted by Daisy25 View Post
I think this is an apples to oranges question...

I think you are really asking about priorities. We all make choices, every single day. We put our money toward what is most important to us. If you are currently put $5000 a year into your horses - you may find that showing is no longer your priority after you have kids.

IF you decide to have children, they will be the most important thing in your life. And it really has nothing to do with your budget - you will spend what you need to in order to take care of your child.

What if your "child" turns out to be twins, or triplets....then everything will be multiplied by 2 or 3 or...

What happens if your child is born with special needs? Yes - the healthcare is covered, but will you have to retro-fit your home to accomodate a wheelchair? Or purchase a wheelchair accessible van?

What if your kids are not interested in horses, but want to pursue dance? or sports? What will it cost to pay for their lessons and uniforms and tournaments?


It's really NOT about money. It's about love. And no one can put a dollar sign on that.
Agree. Yes, there is the money issue. Raising children is much more expensive than horses. But more significant is the emotional commitment that your child/children will bring. Until you experience that, it is difficult to describe, but Daisy says it all when she defines it as love that doesn't have a price tag. You may still be able to do some riding but you may feel guilty or pulled in two directions, so it won't be the same experience that you have now.
I have a suggestion... why not imagine yourself with a newborn, right now. Go through your days (and nights!) as if the child you are thinking of bringing into the world existed right now. How would your daily habits change? Your work lives? Your home decor (imagine the child at 6 months scooting around on the floor...)? Your pets? Your social life? Your disposable income/entertainment income? Driving places with the baby? Grocery shopping with the baby? Do this for a couple of weeks to see how it feels. Then, imagine yourself with a two-year old
A child should not be brought into the world without full commitment and whole-hearted enthusiasm from the parents. You are very wise to seek advice from others here about the commitment in relation to showing horses. I wish you the best in your decision.
outnabout is offline  
post #25 of 29 Old 04-01-2012, 01:40 AM
Yearling
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: North Texas
Posts: 916
• Horses: 0
Quote:
Originally Posted by ginofalltrades View Post
Hi guys,

Last night my husband and I had an intense talk about our future. In doing this we came down to a serious but light hearted debate.

I am wondering if any of you parents, that also own horses, can shed some light on the situation.

I am a 37 year old woman, with a ticking clock. I have never had a strong drive to have children, as I have had horses for most of my adult life, but I still have the instinct to procreate. My husband does not want children, but would do it for me if I wanted. I had told him that as long as I was caring for my 2 horses and showing in Eventing, that I wouln't feel the need to fill a hole in my life. This made him feel cornered, but it was me being as honest as I could be. (I'm sure some of you ladies have had this conversation) He complained about the cost of our animals and flippantly suggested that having children would be less expensive, and that is where the debate began.

Tell me, do you agree or disagree? I honestly have no idea even what a diaper costs, so I am very interested.

Thanks everyone!
Posted via Mobile Device
I have reread your original post, and I am having second thoughts...
First of all, you state that you have never had a strong drive to have children as you have had horses. Most women get the baby craze way before your age, and since you have never "had a strong drive" to do so, I would not if I were you. You may resent the demands of raising a child.

Secondly, you seem to think that having horses in some way satisfies your maternal instincts. Yes, taking care of animals and other things besides children is fulfilling to women in that respect, but in no way compares to having your own child. There is just no comparison.

And finally, your husband does not want children, but he "would do it for me if I wanted". That in itself is a "no go".
outnabout is offline  
post #26 of 29 Old 04-01-2012, 03:15 AM Thread Starter
Foal
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: British Columbia
Posts: 97
• Horses: 2
I never said that having horses satisfies my maternal instincts. I am also not needing to weigh out the emotional expense of having, or not having a child. I was just looking for a monetary conclusion.

Thank-you to everyone who shared their point of views. I'm so happy for all of you, and your choices.

My life is perfect the way it is.

Posted via Mobile Device
roljess and FlyGap like this.

Last edited by ginofalltrades; 04-01-2012 at 03:23 AM.
ginofalltrades is offline  
post #27 of 29 Old 04-01-2012, 09:28 AM
Weanling
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: NE ohio
Posts: 535
• Horses: 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by ginofalltrades View Post
My life is perfect the way it is.

Posted via Mobile Device
This is why my husband and I never had children. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. I am a teacher and I absolutely love my students but I am so glad at the end of the day that I get to put them on their buses and send them back to their parents. I love coming home to my 2 labs and a quiet house where I can sit and relax. My husband and I knew when we first met that we didn't want children and most of it wasn't because of the costs, it was because there was so much we wanted to do and children would have hindered us. We have expensive hobbies (horses and rebuilding classic cars) and I knew if I had a child, I would not have the money or time to spend on a horse and I waited my whole life for a horse of my own :) My husband and I have a very fulfilling life without children and if we had it all to do again, we would't change a thing.


Jackie's Sonny Daze
Haflinger Gelding
myQHpaul is offline  
post #28 of 29 Old 04-01-2012, 01:28 PM
Trained
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 5,402
• Horses: 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by ginofalltrades View Post
Hi guys,

Last night my husband and I had an intense talk about our future. In doing this we came down to a serious but light hearted debate.

I am wondering if any of you parents, that also own horses, can shed some light on the situation.

I am a 37 year old woman, with a ticking clock. I have never had a strong drive to have children, as I have had horses for most of my adult life, but I still have the instinct to procreate. My husband does not want children, but would do it for me if I wanted. I had told him that as long as I was caring for my 2 horses and showing in Eventing, that I wouln't feel the need to fill a hole in my life. This made him feel cornered, but it was me being as honest as I could be. (I'm sure some of you ladies have had this conversation) He complained about the cost of our animals and flippantly suggested that having children would be less expensive, and that is where the debate began.

Tell me, do you agree or disagree? I honestly have no idea even what a diaper costs, so I am very interested.

Thanks everyone!
Posted via Mobile Device
I think you should ask your husband why he lied about not wanting children when he clearly does. It sounds like he was telling you he didn't want any because you were sort of saying 'maybe later but not now' and now that you're trying to close the door on it hesse true choice is coming out. Why would he argue FOR having children if he supposedly didn't want kids but would if you did?
Posted via Mobile Device
DancingArabian is offline  
post #29 of 29 Old 04-01-2012, 03:13 PM Thread Starter
Foal
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: British Columbia
Posts: 97
• Horses: 2
Quote:
Originally Posted by DancingArabian View Post
I think you should ask your husband why he lied about not wanting children when he clearly does. It sounds like he was telling you he didn't want any because you were sort of saying 'maybe later but not now' and now that you're trying to close the door on it hesse true choice is coming out. Why would he argue FOR having children if he supposedly didn't want kids but would if you did?
Posted via Mobile Device
That is a very interesting and insightful point.

Live as if you were to die tomorrow, Learn as if you were to live forever. Ghandi
ginofalltrades is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the The Horse Forum forums, you must first register.

Already have a Horse Forum account?
Members are allowed only one account per person at the Horse Forum, so if you've made an account here in the past you'll need to continue using that account. Please do not create a new account or you may lose access to the Horse Forum. If you need help recovering your existing account, please Contact Us. We'll be glad to help!

New to the Horse Forum?
Please choose a username you will be satisfied with using for the duration of your membership at the Horse Forum. We do not change members' usernames upon request because that would make it difficult for everyone to keep track of who is who on the forum. For that reason, please do not incorporate your horse's name into your username so that you are not stuck with a username related to a horse you may no longer have some day, or use any other username you may no longer identify with or care for in the future.



User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Old Thread Warning
This thread is more than 90 days old. When a thread is this old, it is often better to start a new thread rather than post to it. However, If you feel you have something of value to add to this particular thread, you can do so by checking the box below before submitting your post.

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Icelandic horse appropriate for a child? freia Horse Breeds 12 02-20-2012 12:16 PM
Looking for a horse for a child 4bunny Horses for Sale 7 06-28-2011 02:32 PM
First Charcoal Horse and child pic Flintlock Art and Craft Work 12 10-13-2008 01:53 AM
Horse and Child...Same Name...Strange? QuarterPony Horse Talk 8 08-11-2008 09:59 AM

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome