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post #11 of 58 Old 10-26-2009, 04:19 PM
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If you have been unable to find someone to lease them why not find some one you can pay to ride/work them?

It is not fair to the BO to have the burden just because you are unable to.
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post #12 of 58 Old 10-26-2009, 04:46 PM
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I do understand where my BO is coming from, I just couldn't believe she was saying this 9 days before my due date. And with my husband pulling long hours at the office, its not practical IMO for him to close up the office, therefore losing incoming orders and losing time to work on computers, to exercise them.
No offense - but when is the last time you communicated with her?

As a BO myself - I can't read minds. I have a boarder who had medical issues this summer. I didn't know. When board gets behind, I e-mail to remind. E-mail is unobtrusive and allows the reciepent to think the answer through instead of being put on the defensive.

On the same token - a boarder can send an e-mail anytime and not worry about disrupting chores, lessons, supper, etc.
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I geuss because I don't board I'm confused on this one. I don't understand how she is saying the horses are in need of longing. What is their turn-out time? 2 hours or all day? if they are getting turned out all day then there is no reason to longe them. It sounds like they may be developing some bad manners maybe from lack of handeling, which can be dealt with easily enough but I'm just confused... I have a horse that is semi retired, he gets ridden maybe once every couple months. I don't longe him, he's turned out everyday. I bring him in to feed and turn him out... he's fine. I have a mare that go's weeks and sometimes months without being ridden, I don't have issues with handeling her ont eh ground and she's not getting longed. I don't get it.

E-mail your BO back and ask exactly what the issues are, explain to her that you plan to rectify the situation but that you need specifics so you can come up with a game plan...

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post #14 of 58 Old 10-26-2009, 05:58 PM
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I geuss because I don't board I'm confused on this one. I don't understand how she is saying the horses are in need of longing. What is their turn-out time? 2 hours or all day? if they are getting turned out all day then there is no reason to longe them. It sounds like they may be developing some bad manners maybe from lack of handeling, which can be dealt with easily enough but I'm just confused... I have a horse that is semi retired, he gets ridden maybe once every couple months. I don't longe him, he's turned out everyday. I bring him in to feed and turn him out... he's fine. I have a mare that go's weeks and sometimes months without being ridden, I don't have issues with handeling her ont eh ground and she's not getting longed. I don't get it....
Some horses are different in that way. Some just get more manageble, like yours, or some can get restless and become abit of a problem. Depends on the breed and nature.

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The last time, before today, that we talked to my BO was a couple weeks ago..not sure on the exact date, but it hasn't been a long time. She knew that my due date was coming up.. we even talked about when she had her daughter, so its not like she hasn't known that I've been pregnant.

With everything we need for the baby coming up, and the economy (IMO) still in the toliets, we dont have the extra cash laying around to pay people to exercise the horses, when we could be using it for (IMO) more important things. I know my horses and I highly doubt they are doing anything that is dangerous. They may be a bit more spirited, especially with the way the weather's been lately (was in the 60s-70s then dropped down to the 30s and is now back in the 60s) But they have never done anything that would ever make me think that they are dangerous.
I think it would also matter how they are being taken in/out. Last winter she would let them wander in (someone would be in the barn, another at the gate) so if she's doing that I really dont think you could expect a horse to behave 100% of the time.

Jenny, prior to it dropping below 40 at night, they were out 24/7 in 2 large pastures. Now that the temps have dropped, they come in around when the sun sets, get fed and are in for the night. In the morning (between 8-9..this being based off of what she has said in the past) they are fed and then turned out again.

I'm waiting to hear back from some girls at the old barn.. seeing if either they can or someone they know can work with them.

I guess I was just so taken back that she didn't mention this to us before. I dont see how their behavior could have changed in a few weeks time. Why not have mentioned something before hand? Or e-mail or call us to say that she was having problems.

I dont know.. i dont think I'll ever get it, but such is life...

I'd also like to add that I gave my horses the winter off (last year) I would go up there and say "hi" and give them a quick grooming before a froze and that was that. They were fine for all this time, I just done see what has changed. You'd think if they would have acted up it would have been sooner.. like a few months after, but they were always very quiet and easy going.
Gem was rarely worked because a few things happened (arthritis, colic, lameness) so we just wanted him to get better before we did anything. He's been a pasture puff basically since we got him, and he's been fine.
Vega was worked regularly up until about... Julyish of 08. We ran into quite a few walls and I quite riding her, but did work with her. Then I got another horse in Sept and she sadly was put on a back burner. I rode the new horse almost daily, until it got too cold for me to ride and they had the winter off. In March/April we decided to put Montana up for sale as he loved to work and hated being in the pasture. He acted up a lot and I did what I could. He was sold in July.
Between July up until now, we have visited the horses a few times. Not as much as I would have liked, but I wasn't about to be there by myself with no cell service. IMO it wasn't a smart move. When we would go up there, they were never jumpy or spooky. In fact they were very lazy. Nothing seemed to make them move, unless you had food.

Like I said, I just dont know what would have changed in the past few months to make them go from calm lazy horses to "jumpy and skitzy" horses.

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post #16 of 58 Old 10-27-2009, 12:06 AM
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Appylover I think you have no obligation to hire or lease any of your horses. If they are getting pushy its because of the person that is handling them. How many trainers have sent a respectful horse back to be ruined again by a coddling owner? They have enough time outside of their stall to get exercise. My horses are pasture puffs. They rarely get worked, I really mean very rarely. Yet everyone that comes out comments on how gentle and respectful they are.
Congrats on the baby btw. Im glad your putting your baby first. Hopefully you will have lots of family around when he/she decides to make an apperance!
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I can see both sides of the situation. I can see why you wouldn't want to handle a horse in your condition and you should put you and your child's safety first.

At the same time your horses are not your barn owners problems. As far as I aware, you pay to board your horses, have them fed, and brought in and out. You barn owner is not responsible for keeping your horses handleable, trained or anything. I think it is implied, and often stated in many contracts, that if you have a horse boarded that it is safe to handle, and this is maintained by the owner.

You don't know the situation there. Perhaps your horses were running around crazily and "setting off" the other horses and caused someones horse to get injured. They could have complained to the barn owner and she felt that it was best to advise you to "work off" the horses excess energy. Yes you are pregnant but honestly that is not the barn owners problem, its yours, it has nothing to do with her.

If she is requesting that you work your horses, either talk to her about the problem so you can resolve it (there obviously is one), or get someone to work your horses. Be upfront, tell her you won't be able to work with the horses for 6 months, or 2 months or whatever amount of time you think it will be, don't make promises you can't keep, like saying that you'll go up there when the baby is born, even if you plan not to.

Good luck with birth!
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Granted I have only boarded my horse a few times, mostly I cared for him myself, and now that I have multiple horses they are at my house. I'm just confused on this. I geuss I would assume the women is taking your money to care for your horses. If she were handeling them properly, they would not be loosing their manners. They are being brought in for the night and turned out during the day so IMO they shouldn't be that over zelous. I'm sorry. I'm not helping. I'm heading to NJ now to beat up a BO because she is making my DA stress over junk!!!

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I can see both sides of the situation. I can see why you wouldn't want to handle a horse in your condition and you should put you and your child's safety first.

At the same time your horses are not your barn owners problems. As far as I aware, you pay to board your horses, have them fed, and brought in and out. You barn owner is not responsible for keeping your horses handleable, trained or anything. I think it is implied, and often stated in many contracts, that if you have a horse boarded that it is safe to handle, and this is maintained by the owner.

You don't know the situation there. Perhaps your horses were running around crazily and "setting off" the other horses and caused someones horse to get injured. They could have complained to the barn owner and she felt that it was best to advise you to "work off" the horses excess energy. Yes you are pregnant but honestly that is not the barn owners problem, its yours, it has nothing to do with her.

If she is requesting that you work your horses, either talk to her about the problem so you can resolve it (there obviously is one), or get someone to work your horses. Be upfront, tell her you won't be able to work with the horses for 6 months, or 2 months or whatever amount of time you think it will be, don't make promises you can't keep, like saying that you'll go up there when the baby is born, even if you plan not to.

Good luck with birth!
Well said!

farmpony there is a very fine line being a BO and boarding horses. You say that if they are handled correctly they would not loose their manners. Some horses need constant reminders of things. Some owners get upset when evil BOs reprimand their horse. (Not saying the OP is that way.) But BOs are kind of stuck in a position sometimes on issues like this.
They can not go around correcting people's horses. And you pay for board, not training. Training is extra any place I have ever boarded.
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I geuss I see your point. When I did board my horse, it was at a trainers facility and the trainers handled and cared for the horse. I geuss that is different then a regular boarding facility...

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