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post #11 of 14 Old 11-14-2013, 02:05 PM
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Everyone will always assume that WP requires the head between their knees....

If you train your WP horse right, you will have them seeking to lower their head and relax at their comfortable level. I can give a perfect personal example; I work a reined cowhorse barn. One filly we have is naturally low headed. I mean, since day one, she's had it wayyy down there. I never asked her for it, it just happened. However, we also have another little filly who prefers to carry her head about level with her body, if not a little higher. My issue is not with any head carriage, it's when they brace and nose out against you. A horse who is very well trained in the western world will lower their head the more rein you give them. We have a finished stud at work, and the more slack you give him the lower he wants to go. It was never forced.

Anyway, teaching the job is not cruel of mean. Of course it will require practice, and some are more natural than others, but it's not even remotely mean.
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post #12 of 14 Old 11-14-2013, 03:27 PM
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The gait itself isn't mean if the horse doesn't have difficulty doing it. If they're moving along uncollected without proper work at it then it probably will cause them difficulty. It's important with all riding, but especially so with unnatural gaits, that the horse is of an appropriate fitness for what's being asked. From what I've heard about jog is that it's mean to be a very collected gait so your horse has to be up to it.
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post #13 of 14 Old 11-14-2013, 11:19 PM
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Everyone will always assume that WP requires the head between their knees....

If you train your WP horse right, you will have them seeking to lower their head and relax at their comfortable level. I can give a perfect personal example; I work a reined cowhorse barn. One filly we have is naturally low headed. I mean, since day one, she's had it wayyy down there. I never asked her for it, it just happened. However, we also have another little filly who prefers to carry her head about level with her body, if not a little higher. My issue is not with any head carriage, it's when they brace and nose out against you. A horse who is very well trained in the western world will lower their head the more rein you give them. We have a finished stud at work, and the more slack you give him the lower he wants to go. It was never forced.

Anyway, teaching the job is not cruel of mean. Of course it will require practice, and some are more natural than others, but it's not even remotely mean.
I wasn't talking about low headedness - I don't like my horses head in the air, either. It creates a hollow back and throws everything out of whack.
I meant when they are so far behind the vertical that they're staring at the ground instead of where they are going.

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post #14 of 14 Old 11-14-2013, 11:22 PM
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Well of course that is undesirable - It's just important to remember that not all WP horses do that. It wasn't aimed at you, WS, it was just a general statement since most people just assume WP horses are major peanut rollers.

Pssh.I didn't pick up the wrong lead
It's called a counter canter...
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