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post #11 of 82 Old 08-20-2009, 07:59 PM
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nothing is left behind , sprits and souls walk together and animals go to heaven too !
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Here's a good quote I saw off another site:

"Animals are not the ones who brought sin into the world; rather they are nothing but innocent victims of the destruction mankind has brought about: "Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all men, because all sinned…" (Rom 5:12 NIV). As a result, it wasn't necessary for Jesus to die for animals; it was necessary for Him to die for us."

So, naturally, we assume that animals don't have a soul because there was no need for Jesus to die for them. Not saying they won't be in Heaven because, really. How would we know? Many people will make assumptions but only God really knows whether or not they are there or not.

If you look up 'animals in heaven' on Google there are SOO many different people's outlook on the subject it is crazy. But be forewarned: Don't believe evrything you read. I saw a verse on a website that believed animals went to heaven and they displayed a verse that said animals went to heaven. To be sure, I looked up the exact verse in the same version and what do you know? They website had purposely changed the verse to make it sound more convincing. It ended up having nothing to do with animals at all. And context is very important as well. Revelations contains many verses that sound promising, but they may be talking about a whoe different thing and are using examples to get the point across.

Catch my drift or am I rambling? I will ask a friend tomorrow who is very experienced in the Bible area and maybe I can get some answere from him.

Got off-subject sorry :)
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I suppose that's why I think that animals have souls. For me, a soul is not necessarily given to humans because of Jesus's death on the cross. It is instead a persons being and similar to spirit which is why I asked you earlier. Obviously it's all up to interpretation, though. Thanks for looking that up for me, Sunny.
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So what do you think about the "Does all life have a spirit" question? Do you think a person has a soul but can also have a spirit?

Soul. Spirit. Two different things. Yes, humans have both.

Soul. Thing that goes to Heaven/Hell and is your spiritual 'spirit'. A spirit is what identifies you as 'alive', as in, what makes you you.

Gosh, can't explain it.

I don't want to tell you the wrong thing by accident, let me do some research. It's a good subject.

Religion with most people varies so I don't want to make the mistake of offending someone inadvertantly. I will pm you further if you are still interested.
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Okay, coming from a complete and utter atheist here (please no one try to convert me), but I'm not sure if I follow Sunny's logic.

Animals don't go to heaven because Jesus didn't need to die for them.

So, the animals are punished because they didn't screw up in the first place?

As for the OP's question, I don't know if that's something anyone can answer but yourself. They are YOUR beliefs after all, someone can't tell you what to believe any more than someone can tell you what your favourite colour should be.

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^ Animals don't neccesarily get 'punished'.

They won't go to hell. They simply get pushed out of existance.

Like I said, will research a little more before I jump in to a full-fledged 'lecture'. I don't want to share information twisted by ignorance in any way and give people wrong ideas ;)

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Okay, I can kind of understand that.

Atheists believe that when you die, you just die, as in, you cease to exist. (Totally having flying circus 'dead parrot' flashbacks)

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post #18 of 82 Old 08-20-2009, 08:54 PM
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Says in the Bible that animals have no soul. Therefore, no heaven for them.

However, maybe God is sending to their own little version of Heaven that he doesn't want us to know about? :P

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Says in the Bible that animals have no soul. Therefore, no heaven for them.
Lol, want to help me find the correct one? I found all kinds of Revelation verses but those are in a whole diferent context...
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i believe every pet, good or bad, have a spirt and there for go to heaven. why would God have MADE animals if he did not have a plan for them? He has a "plan" for all of us so if he created animals then they have a place to go, where they can live forever and it should be with us..
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