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post #11 of 27 Old 09-24-2013, 02:11 PM Thread Starter
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Will try that too! Thanks. I really don't think it's the whip. It's just a constant battle of who is calling the shots. Yesterday is a perfect example. He did soooo much better lunging (with a whip) and then riding. But when we were finished with arena work I walked him through the barn and attempted to go out the front to do a small trail and he was like hellllll no!!! Started acting a fool and I literally had to back him out of the front of the barn. Once we were out and he realized this was going to happen regardless of his little temper tantrum.... He was fine!! He just has a VERY strong will.... And I can tell he's not afraid.... Not at all. He just wants to be boss. But yesterday WAS better even with that episode so I am encouraged. Thanks for the advice! ;)
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And I have another question that prolly sounds dumb. I have never owned a 'barn sour' horse. Certainly not to this degree. But he and the mare are kept in the paddock furthest away from the barn.... By themselves. The paddock has a nice shelter and the barn is barely visable from there. Why on earth is he so hellbent on leaving the barn?? Have only owned him 3 weeks so it's not like he has developed this huge attachment to his 'normal' surroundings so to speak. And 99% of the time he is a Champ to catch! Confused.....
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Regardless of what we are doing.... I can tell his bad behavior.... Almost always is an attempt to get to the barn.
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post #14 of 27 Old 09-24-2013, 03:03 PM
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Geldings have a tendency to attach themselves to a mare very quickly. When you leave the barn, where is the mare? Could he be trying to get back to her? If so, it may be a good ideato seperate them occasionally to make the seperation easier. I'm no expert, it's just the first thing that came to mind as I've seen it occur over and over at our barn with other peoples horses.

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It just depends.... Sometimes she is in a stall... In the barn of course. Other times she in the paddock. I really don't have the optionof separating them. I rent this one paddock for a set fee. I don't pay by the horse. But these horses were purchased together so they know each other very well. I think u have probably hit the nail on the head and that has a lot to do with it. Just not sure how to handle it..... :(
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And I only put one of them in a stall if I am planning on riding them both. The BO is very gracious as we are his only boarders. But I don't necessarily have the option of keeping one in the barn for any length of time.
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Another thought I've had..... Both horses were owned by a woman who had some health issues and is no longer able to ride. He was kept.. Ridden and trained by a 12 time world champion. Fell in to these horses... Certainly did not go looking for a horse with his degree of training.... But maybe we are the idiots! Obviously trained above our ability... But I'm just asking for very BASIC things. Granted I have only known English riding up until now.... And he is trained in Western. But can it really be that different on just a very basic level??
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And his trainer was a man.... Maybe it's because we're girls?? Lol
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And his trainer was a man.... Maybe it's because we're girls?? Lol
no, horses only really care about human gender if they've learned the genders act differently. In a herd there is a lead mare, who makes the majority of the decisions for the herd. The stallion protects them, wards off threats and rivals and breeds the mares, but its the lead mare that really is the boss.

I have a no nonsense, high energy, lets-get-er-done type personality. I have determination in spades, and I can out stubborn pretty much anything. I also get bored easily, so I like a horse that's more challenging. The type of horse you have is the type I prefer for myself. Its also the most frustrating type of horse for people with softer personalities, less experience or who just want a relaxing ride. This is the type of horse you have to be one step ahead of all the way, or they will walk all over you.

You have two choices, either get really tough with this horse. That means NEVER letting him get away with anything, you have to be constantly aware of what he's doing, and correcting what is inappropriate all the time, in no uncertain terms. Or, you can sell him.
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I'm not going to sell him unless the situation gets dangerous. Which I honestly don't think it will. At least I hope not. And thus far I have won the battles.... Just didn't expect so many!! Lol. And every day I am more confident that we will get through this. I am not a timid personality. Yesterday the BO's wife jokingly commented that I should help the BO train Colts when I was making him get out of the barn one way or another.... Lol. I just want to do things right I guess if this is a challenge I am going to take on. Just very surprised by this behavior I guess. And do NOT want to deal with this indefinitely. If this situation will improve with time.... I'm all in. But not trying to get hurt.
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