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post #21 of 36 Old 07-18-2013, 01:44 PM
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From having driven an 18 wheeler, and still having CDL as well as spousal unit that drives. Arguing with the DOT especially, or showing them the rules is a good way to end up with more trouble than you want.

And sure don't want to banter back and forth with loaded trailer either.
Yeah, when they see the CDL on your DL, your whole "I'm sorry officer, I didn't know" excuse goes screaming right out the window, lol

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I used this as my example when I called, but said it was my friend DOT guys answers are in red. (Don't know why I didn't just post it this way in the first place, duh)

When I called FMCSA to ask about this, I specifically asked about a friend chipping in on gas to have her horse hauled along...and was told that then put you as 'for hire'.

And again, I know I have had bogus tickets given, and have fought them, if close enough to do that easily.

But if ticket is in MN and you are hauling in to trail ride from south MO, is it going to be worth it to go back and forth to fight it or not?

And THAT is what they are counting on.


Several years ago, there were quite a few stories coming out about people getting parking tickets, who had not even been in the city they were cited in, and in one case, the number written on ticket? Belonged to his antique car, that hadn't been moved off his property in quite a few years.

He called to protest it...and was told to come for court if he wanted to fight it. He lived in western KS, ticket was in KC MO. Not worth it, so he paid it.

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Yeah, when they see the CDL on your DL, your whole "I'm sorry officer, I didn't know" excuse goes screaming right out the window, lol

Ain't that the truth!

But actually? No, I didn't know we were now supposed to have Log Books, medical card, DOT #...

Not for horses.

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Is this some new law or just something that has been on the books for a while but just now getting enforced?
Been on books for awhile. But only now getting cracked down on.

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Also, saying you don't do it as business? Could lead to IRS looking at you if you claim your horses as business on taxes?

Or someone in DOT looking you up online and seeing you train horses for others, show or what have you, could result in other charges too.

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Ain't that the truth!

But actually? No, I didn't know we were now supposed to have Log Books, medical card, DOT #...

Not for horses.
See, I never say I'm getting paid mileage if I gave someone a ride. The guy I spoke to definatly hinted that vague answers are best & not to mention money. Especially since I have my CDL, if I'm not getting paid, I don't need to worry about any of that.

But that's me, I'm not doing anything as a 'business'. I'm just a mom hauling a bunch of 4-H kids around
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Also, saying you don't do it as business? Could lead to IRS looking at you if you claim your horses as business on taxes?

Or someone in DOT looking you up online and seeing you train horses for others, show or what have you, could result in other charges too.
Considering they will actually check your math in your logs, I wouldn't put it past them to check & see if you advertise. I got busted on mine for being 15 minutes off of what my timecard said

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post #28 of 36 Old 07-18-2013, 02:33 PM
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I dunno... When someone has a dually "pickup" that's about the size & weight (and horsepower) of a semi tractor, and a trailer approaching the size of a semi trailer (whether it's hauling horses, RV trailer, or toys), I can maybe see their point. I know there've been a number of times when I've wished certain idiots would have learned to drive their rig before they took it on the road.
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post #29 of 36 Old 07-18-2013, 06:13 PM
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Health papers that should be with your Coggins, that vet has filled out.
Depends on the state I guess. Our Health Certificates don't have a destination on them as they are given for a year's length of time so there is no spot for destination even if you are going someplace that needs you to get more recent ones to attend.

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Our Coggins are good for a year and they always ask for a destination. I give them my home address because ultimately that's where we'll end up.

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