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post #31 of 47 Old 04-20-2013, 10:50 AM
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I can't get over how many post there are where people say, the vet won't come out, can't come out or says no use..I would get a different vet! Why should an owner have to ask what to do on the internet when the vet should be giving advice.

You can give him some banamine to help with any pain. I can see why you wouldn't want a full blown colic visit but... the vet should at least recommend, some anti-spasmotics and pain meds, maybe some mineral oil. You could give your guy some oral Banamine yourself. As for not many fecal balls, if he hasn't been eating, there would not be much manure.

Good luck, your pony is darling. And as for the vet saying any day now, phewey! Ponies live a long, long time.
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post #32 of 47 Old 04-20-2013, 10:52 AM
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Pick up a bag of Chaffhaye. If you're in the front range, there is always a dealer on CL. Not cheap but it's chopped fresh hay so more like soft fresh green grass. You can also take a flake of alfalfa. Shake out the leaves. Feed those to him and feed the stems to the others.
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post #33 of 47 Old 04-20-2013, 10:56 AM
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I would keep offering him hay, then once you have it, the different feed. Have you tried alfalfa pellets alone, or with a little bran, if you have it? He was nosing around in the hay, so apparently interest is there.
Do you have alfalfa hay available? They normally can chew the little leaves quite well, even without teeth. That could give him a little more to do, plus it's helpful with ulcers.
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post #34 of 47 Old 04-20-2013, 10:57 AM
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I hope that your boy gets better. He seems like he takes good care of your daughter. Reminds me of my old mare when I was a little kid:/.
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post #35 of 47 Old 04-20-2013, 11:09 AM
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Another thought: is there anything he LOVES to eat that you could add to his mash?
Lacey loves rice bran more than anything so I'll sometimes add a handful of it to her food, if she's acting fussy or disinterested in food. She'll eat literally anything if rice bran is involved.


On the blanket front, I agree with your vet about not placing a sheet on him because it'll just make him colder. However, a warm blanket (I would go maybe medium-heavy weight since you can layer the sheet over it if he needs more) might be a sound investment for when/if he makes it through this.
I find that my mare has to work really hard keeping herself warm if she's not blanketed overnight during the winter/when it's below 40* at night. She's able to eat hay and she'll easily go through 40lbs of hay in one 35*F night if she doesn't have a blanket on (she's only 950lbs). If she has a MW blanket on, she'll eat a "normal" amount of hay for her: 15-20lbs.

Just a thought. :)

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post #36 of 47 Old 04-20-2013, 11:36 AM Thread Starter
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Hi Taffy - I have an excellent relationship with my vet - he has given me advice, and I am in constant contact with him... he believes George has been a very loved pony who is well over 30 and is simply telling me its about time for him to go. As those who know my postings on her understand, it isn't about the money - I am the first to bring a vet out, from Sarcoids to x-rays when needed....

If I asked him to come, he would. He just doesn't see the point if George isn't in pain, isn't depressed, and isn't feverish or showing any signs of distress. He doesn't see the point in a colic workup for a horse who is eating and passing and is showing no signs of colic. He is almost certain George has Ulcers due to his digestive inefficiency and eating pattern - says I can try Ulcerguard but long term use will be very hard on him... His bottom line is George will let us know, and accepting that and letting him go with dignity instead of wasting away is best for George. Vet asks that over the weekend I coax him with equine senior and beet pulp in very small feedings spread through the day, and see what we get by Monday.

Wallaby - his favorite thing is Equine Senior, and I tried that this morning... there isn't anything he likes better. I just came back in after sitting with him and Daisy and he is leaving it, just following me around, nosing Daisy over the fence, and hanging out. There is absolutely no sign of distress, he just isn't interested.

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post #37 of 47 Old 04-20-2013, 11:45 AM
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He is a good looking man. I hope it is not his time but if it is I am sure you will do the right thing.
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post #38 of 47 Old 04-20-2013, 12:33 PM
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I can't offer any better advice that what has already been put out there. I just want to wish you and George all the best, and the strength to do what you need to do. Thinking of you.
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post #39 of 47 Old 04-20-2013, 12:40 PM
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He looks like he is in good condition. Most horses that are just ready to die lose a lot of weight. I would do like Taffy suggested and try some banamine. I wouldn't be surprised if he had a low grade colic.

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post #40 of 47 Old 04-20-2013, 09:42 PM Thread Starter
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George is doing good today, I have been offering feed throughout the day and tonight for dinner he was actually nickering for his food and acting very excited about it again...

I put him in a different stall that doesn't have shavings so when he spills his food he can eat it off the mats. I should add that his feed bucket is right outside the picture and he dumped it out immediately...

He has been eating the equine senior and oats, but doesn't want it in a mash... so be it.

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