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post #1 of 13 Old 11-21-2009, 03:46 PM Thread Starter
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Ex Studs. Rearing. and Leads Oh My!!

Hey! Okay, so what is some ways to get your horse to pick up the right lead?
Do YOU have horses that refuse to pick up their leads?!


Also, what is someways to work with Ex Studs?? This is also having to do this the leads.. Do You have a Ex stud??
And does your horses rear just for fun? If not, why does he?

I have a 16.1 quarter horse paint, he is a EX STUD and he has huge mood swings from day to day.. any tips on working with him? His name is Digger, and is one BIG boy!!

Heres a photo of him::

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post #2 of 13 Old 11-21-2009, 08:26 PM
 
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Horses don't usually rear for fun when you're riding them, ex-stud or no. There's usually a pain issue or a poor foundation at work. My mare reared for a while when I first got her, and while partly it had to do with a saddle, it also had to do with the fact that before I got her, she had been a pay and go trailhorse and had consequently gotten some very mixed messages from unschooled riders. She was also thoroughly sick of being cowboyed around (having her mouth yanked on and being kicked in the ribs with no warning). Most of her issues were the result of poor riding and training, and the rest was pain. To straighten her out, I resolved the pain issue, then I reschooled her with lunging and ground driving to get her stop and go buttons figured out. Then I learned to ride with my seat instead of my legs and hands. Kicking and pulling works with some horses, but it frustrates others and is almost never a good training method, so check to make sure that this isn't what's going on with your guy. I'm not saying that it's you who's messed up his training, but if he's lacking undersaddle manners, you might have to go back to ground work until you've earned his trust and respect.
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post #3 of 13 Old 11-21-2009, 08:33 PM
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I have several Ex-studs but I call them geldings. Seek professional help for your horse problems.

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post #4 of 13 Old 11-21-2009, 09:02 PM
 
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Thank you for that Kevinshorses. I think that's basically what I was trying to say.
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post #5 of 13 Old 11-22-2009, 10:22 AM Thread Starter
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Haha Okay Thanks. I was with a trainer for awhile, and they basicoly told me that when he dosn't want to do something, he basicoly tells you, by rearing.. Hes a little odd though cause he gives absolutly no visual signs, but you can feel his back tighten secounds before he goes up.. Lots of circles she said : )
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I would think a good trainer would tell you to get rid of a rearing horse, or at the very least re-train him for you.

You're obviously a child and any trainer with any sense would take you off that horse IMO

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post #7 of 13 Old 11-22-2009, 09:43 PM Thread Starter
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Yea. Im 13. And Ive been riding ever since I could walk thank you very much. Im a experienced rider, maybe not the best, but thats why I am working with him. To stop him from rearing. And unlike some people, I dont give up on a AWSOME horse, who is not a push button pony, but has a mind that thinks for itself. He dosn't flip. And I know how to ride, and how to deal with a horse. I dont give up on horses. Unlike SOME people.
Thanks though.
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post #8 of 13 Old 11-23-2009, 07:40 AM
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horses that have learned to rear to get a rider to get off and thus get rewarded for the bad behavior, are VERY dangerous. they WILL take it to a higher level if not corrected. even then you need to be watchful. you could carry a rolled up news paper or something like that and hit him between the ears across the poll when he rears and thus scare him. people have used eggs for this. people have used coke bottles. horses have been killed with that last one. a cowboy i've known would pull them down when they reared and beat snot of them with the reins or a stick while they are down. i don't think you should do that.
if it's a tack problem, which it could be, he has still learned a bad habit. watch out for yourself. i hate rearing horses. they can kill you.
good luck.
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post #9 of 13 Old 11-23-2009, 09:01 AM
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This guy needs to work with an experienced trainer not rider.

I've ridden lots of stallions and former breeding stallions (now geldings) that have never once reared. He needs to be retrained.

In the meantime I bet he is far to green for that tom tumb bit that you are using on him, but him in a gentle snaffle until he learns about bit pressure.
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post #10 of 13 Old 11-23-2009, 09:22 AM Thread Starter
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He dosn't rear trying to get me off though. And its not high up.. and when it is he gets in trouble.. And when he thinks of it he gets in trouble. He hops and stays maybe two feet off the ground, and then goes down.. (Not two feet but you get what I mean, not very high up at all) and hes weird, cause he mostly does it in the spring. Hes very sensitive on his mouth, and to leg pressure, but he isn't when he rears, he just totaly egnores your legs. He will spin if your hand twitchs.. Iunno.. I get how he can be very dangerous.. and for the bit fact, (Not trying to be rude! I know advise is advise!!) When we got him, we tried different bits on him, going from a D-Ring, to a large snaffle.. He responded best with this one..
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