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post #1 of 8 Old 10-25-2009, 06:23 PM Thread Starter
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experience with free lease situations?

Hi guys,

I was wondering if any of you had experience with a free lease. That is, having your horse sent out on free lease. I am thinking about leasing out my two girls Uma and Demi for six months or so. I am at a time in my life where I really don't have a passion for riding. I feel like it's my job and I am not enjoying it at all. I have been competing since I was six and have never had a real break and my frustration has finally taken it's toll. It's not fair for my beautiful horses to sit and do nothing when someone else could use them.

So my questions are...
Did you recieve or give the free lease?
What were you required to pay (vet, farrier, nothing?)?
Was the horse kept at the facility it was at before or sent somewhere?
Was it overall a good experience for the horse and you?
Would you do it again, if not, why?

Any other info pertaining to this subject would be helpful as I have never leased out a horse before. Of course I would do the contract, liability, etc. But I need to know some of the basic things before I really give thought to it.

Thanks guys!

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post #2 of 8 Old 10-25-2009, 07:36 PM
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The one thing I learned is that NOBODY looks after your horse like you do.

They have no investment in the animal.
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post #3 of 8 Old 10-25-2009, 07:46 PM
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i recieved a free lease about one year ago, it was supposed to be for one year, where i cover all the costs and stabling etc. i was told the horse was abou 10yrs old bombproof, when in fact it was 3 and only had a saddle on for about 7 days, i ended up breaking my back and sending the horse back. leases can go very well and you can say that your horses have to stay in the current yard, you say what they eat and what vet they use and what farrier, you can be on hand or go and watch them event when you wish, and go see your horse and ride your horse when you please, a written agreement is essential, make sure that you make the lease last initially 4 weeks with the option to extend further once you are happy with the care given to your horse, and you have the right to take the horse away when ever you want. sus the leaser out, make sure they are up to riding your horse by having them come by at least three times and make them ride in different circumstances. you will find more information on the www.bhs.co.uk website, about lease agreements and you can print up one of them too.
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post #4 of 8 Old 10-25-2009, 09:04 PM Thread Starter
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thanks for the info. I know that someone else won't take care of my horses like I do but at least they would be ridden instead of wasting their time in a pasture. I am always very upfront with issues/quirks that could cause problems when selling a horse so I would do the same for a lease. My mom used to be a paralegal assistant and is very good at writing a thorough contract/liability release. I still do not know if this is the best option for me and my horses but thanks for the info! Any more is appreciated

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post #5 of 8 Old 10-25-2009, 11:06 PM
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I have a horse out on a free lease...so far it's good I will add more later. I'm not really able to write a full response right now.
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post #6 of 8 Old 10-25-2009, 11:29 PM
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I've leased before and known many people who have leased. Generally, in my experience, people negotiate a set lease term (usually six months or a year). Once the horse is given to the lessee its basically their horse in every way, except that they cannot breed or sell it. They are responsible for its health, upkeep, vet care etc.

I personally don't like leases. For the lessor it might work out well, but I find the majority of lease horses are untrained, and the lessee spends six months putting lots of work into training a horse to be ridable, and then at the end just gives back a well trained horse without receiving anything in return.
Although leases can work out well. Remember people are not going to treat horses and do things exactly like you, and its not fair to expect them to. Your horse may come back different to when you sent it away.

Also write out a solid contract. Make sure you make it clear how responsible the person is. Make sure you include clauses concerning death of the horse, your liability and permanent damage of the horse.

Personally I wouldn't lease out a horse. I don't trust people enough, but there are good people out there.
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post #7 of 8 Old 10-27-2009, 11:06 PM
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I leased our showjumper (17yrs old ) for a year. Same reason, he was sitting in the paddock doing nothing.
I advertised him through pony club but got a call from someone who had previously bought a horse from us the day I advertised him.

I let them have him as I knew them and they looked after the other horse well.
They rode him in pony club comps so I had people who could keep an eye on him aswell.

I had a contract signed before they took him which said they paid all his costs and he was to be kept in at least as good a condition as when he went to them. He was also to be insured.

This horse is an ex-racer and has 'old' joints (probably 10 years older than he actually is) and I have him massaged and give him MSM. I knew they wouldn't do that but I felt he would be okay for a year (they live on a cattle property a long way out).

I have to say that I was quite dissapointed in his condition when he came back.
He was very light on. He had lost a lot of muscle through his back and his beautiful long red tail had been cut to about 4 inches below his dock. He had white marks where a saddle had been pressing along his spine (we checked the saddle fit before he went so I don't know what they used on him after that).

I had the body worker come straight out to him and it cost me 3 visits before he was moving anything like he used to (due, we think, to the bad saddle fit). I was hoping to hop on him and do some light competing myself this comp season but had to spend 6 weeks just hacking him in straight lines to rebuild his muscles.

However, they were off a property which ran stock horses which are very good doers and really didn't have a clue as to what the feed requirements of a big rangy thoroughbred was. They rang me a couple of times with questions as to what to feed him etc. but I think it all got a bit hard for them over time.

Anyway, would I lease again?? Possibly, but at present I can only think of 2 people I would lease to - however, if I HAD to , it would be subject to thorough investigation, references, and would be checked on a regular basis i.e. every month or two.

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post #8 of 8 Old 10-29-2009, 01:50 PM
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Without going too deep into this at the moment, if you do lease it out, either make sure you have the horse adequately insured, or make sure that the lessee has it adequately insured. Different people have different opinions on what is good for a horse and you could very easily find your horse being returned lame, out of shape or worse.
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