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post #21 of 53 Old 05-06-2018, 01:24 AM Thread Starter
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And my husband wants to know how a Draft affects the wind direction...

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This was a nasty fall, haven't a clue how the jockey was.



I maintain that the best thing about falling is to do it often when bodies are young, that way you learn how to fall. You can read all you like but practise makes perfect!
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My own most spectacular experiment in this field (it could have been any field, but this field was in Texas.) involved the sudden deceleration and loss of altitude of the front end of the horse, coupled with the gain of altitude and continued momentum of the rear end of the horse, resulting in the slight gain of both altitude and velocity of the rider from the catapult effect of the cantleboard.


The second phase of the experiment involved the comparative rolling velocities of two objects with differing circumferences. My theory was that the larger object would have a faster velocity than the smaller object, but would lose velocity faster due to the larger surface area affected by friction. The smaller object should roll at less velocity, but for more distance due to the smaller area affected by friction.


The first part of that theory proved true. The second part could not be proven due to the larger object rolling over top of the smaller object, effectively stopping all forward motion of the smaller object.


I am still looking for volunteers to assist me in testing the second part of that theory. I will take the measurements this time.
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I maintain that the best thing about falling is to do it often when bodies are young, that way you learn how to fall. You can read all you like but practise makes perfect!
I think that's right; and just for interest, my husband did Kendo and Judo for many years and says that one of the chief things drilled into martial arts beginners is learning how to fall correctly - roll, don't prop on your elbow, etc - even though you're only falling on softish mats. Also how to have a bit of balance to it so you can get up ASAP after falling, preferably in a fluid motion.

I'd hate to have to learn how to fall as an adult - and if I had to, I'd probably practice it on mats first instead of off a horse. And things are a little less elastic these days when I fall, compared to when I was a kid.

Maybe people should have formal falling-off lessons as part of their riding lessons - and practice on mats first, and then off barrels onto mats etc.


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My own most spectacular experiment in this field (it could have been any field, but this field was in Texas.) involved the sudden deceleration and loss of altitude of the front end of the horse, coupled with the gain of altitude and continued momentum of the rear end of the horse, resulting in the slight gain of both altitude and velocity of the rider from the catapult effect of the cantleboard.


The second phase of the experiment involved the comparative rolling velocities of two objects with differing circumferences. My theory was that the larger object would have a faster velocity than the smaller object, but would lose velocity faster due to the larger surface area affected by friction. The smaller object should roll at less velocity, but for more distance due to the smaller area affected by friction.


The first part of that theory proved true. The second part could not be proven due to the larger object rolling over top of the smaller object, effectively stopping all forward motion of the smaller object.
I am laughing at the award-worthy description - but definitely not at the incident. Were you badly hurt? Someone I knew was galloping across a field of grass when the horse went down in a concealed ditch - horse's rear end hit the rider - rider got a shatter fracture of the collar bone. That was getting away lightly, but the large object wasn't rolling on top of the smaller object in this case.


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I am still looking for volunteers to assist me in testing the second part of that theory. I will take the measurements this time.
Can't fault that logic! How big a sample size are you looking for, for this study?

I wonder, how could subjects be attracted to the experiment? How will the traps be baited?

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Tom, when I first had him, did all he could to either drop me or frighten me into dismounting. It never worked and, after a few weeks, he wears much better and I could pony from him.

His owner and I had been out Fox Hunting and had a good active day, next day I only needed to give the two a good leg stretch. They had different ideas and were acting like they had been shut in formsox weeks and this was the first day out.

Me being me just kicked on and ended up taking them some distance. Tom was an idiot but not disrespectful. After a good hour of fairly fast work and several 'incidents' I was heading home. I opened and closed a gate leading into a field that had had kale for the dairy cows growing in it. It was muddy and the track along the bottom sloppy liquid gloop. When doing the gate Melody was on my right, the lower side of the track. I started to canter and as we headed towards the gate I took a haul on the reins knowing that Tom had every intention of jumping it. At this point Melody nipped him, as I was coming back into the saddle he bucked bringing his back end up and stopped dead. I was booted back out the saddle, dropped Melody who galloped off up the hill,. I was catapulted over Tom's neck. I must have done a hand stand on his neck and I ended up standing facing him.

What had me in stitches was the look on his face, he was so shocked that I was on the deck. Having tried all he knew and failed all he had done was hump amd stop and I had dismounted.

Melody came galloping back having got down and rolled both sides whilst out of sight!

The liquid gloop had splashed up between my legs so I had a very uncomfortable ride home.
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@SueC It puts you below the head winds and above the tail winds.....
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I think I've liked every post. Just let me say while continuing to read and spewing coffee all over the keyboard I will continue to like all the posts but it may just be in my head...
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I maintain that the best thing about falling is to do it often when bodies are young, that way you learn how to fall. You can read all you like but practise makes perfect!
That's very true! When I fell yesterday for the first time in 20 years (I was being stupid), I hit rear end first and rolled to my back. My head never hit the ground. I didn't have to think about it. It's just muscle memory from all the practice I had as a kid.

For those keeping up with the experimental data, I believe the soreness the following day increases proportionally with the age of the projectile (AKA rider).
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I forgot to mention absolutely no protection from windshear or microbursts... The smiley should be flying sideways BTW
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