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post #51 of 105 Old 05-26-2013, 09:55 PM
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You could sell the horse. Obviously it's causing a lot of unnecessary tension between you two - you could sell and wait until you can afford one all on your own, and be rid of the problem alltogether.

Whether or not you're spoiled, the way you worded your original post was EXTREMELY immature. That's why everybody is up in arms - it sounds incredibly ungrateful. You HAVE a horse, which is more than a lot of people can say. Offer to sell - if he pull the "No, it's my horse, I do what I want with it" line then well, the vet bills are his responsibility.
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If you think he is miss treating you I suggest you move out and find out what the real world is like! Let me tell you... It ain't pretty. Be thankful for what you have because I'm SURE your not lacking in anyway.
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post #53 of 105 Old 05-26-2013, 09:58 PM
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No, I don't think you are spoiled, OP. I DO think that you are very well off, and probably have been for most of your life, and you just don't realize it. I don't necessarily mean financially. I mean just in life in general. Not many people have really wronged you, and you've generally had it pretty easy. BUT I am assuming, and you know what they say about that.

I could very well be wrong. What led me to this opinion is the way you are wording things, which is in a very immature manner. I don't mean to be accusatory, I don't mean to sound better than you, I'm just saying that you sound a lot younger than 16 based on the way you type, and the words you are saying. That may be the reason you got jumped so badly - people on this forum are VERY, VERY blunt. They will tell you EXACTLY what they think, and won't hold back. Anyone who wants to disagree, go ahead, but I can easily link you to several threads where people have been ... a bit harsh ...

That said, I think you just need to take a step back and breath. Your father has done a mean thing by promising you the money, and going back on his word. I know from personal experience how much that hurts, and it's awful. What you must realize is that NOTHING is going to change, and nothing will make it better, unless you sit down and talk to him. Be mature, see things from his point of view (as hard is it can be....), and talk civially. That's the only thing that will get you progress at this moment. Okay?

And don't be calling your dad a 'cheap liar,' and don't be hating him. He's busted his butt for you, at one point or another, if not at several points. He loves you dearly. He tries his hardest to be the best he can be. So show some respect, he deserves it.

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post #54 of 105 Old 05-26-2013, 10:05 PM Thread Starter
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If you think he is miss treating you I suggest you move out and find out what the real world is like! Let me tell you... It ain't pretty. Be thankful for what you have because I'm SURE your not lacking in anyway.
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i dont even live with my dad, i have been taken away by DHS you dont know me i dont even care what i say online. I have lived with many people, i am lucky that i am alive i know that saying things online doesn't scare me at all.
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post #55 of 105 Old 05-26-2013, 10:08 PM
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i love when people think they know what goes on outside of internet
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post #56 of 105 Old 05-26-2013, 10:08 PM Thread Starter
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No, I don't think you are spoiled, OP. I DO think that you are very well off, and probably have been for most of your life, and you just don't realize it. I don't necessarily mean financially. I mean just in life in general. Not many people have really wronged you, and you've generally had it pretty easy. BUT I am assuming, and you know what they say about that.

I could very well be wrong. What led me to this opinion is the way you are wording things, which is in a very immature manner. I don't mean to be accusatory, I don't mean to sound better than you, I'm just saying that you sound a lot younger than 16 based on the way you type, and the words you are saying. That may be the reason you got jumped so badly - people on this forum are VERY, VERY blunt. They will tell you EXACTLY what they think, and won't hold back. Anyone who wants to disagree, go ahead, but I can easily link you to several threads where people have been ... a bit harsh ...

That said, I think you just need to take a step back and breath. Your father has done a mean thing by promising you the money, and going back on his word. I know from personal experience how much that hurts, and it's awful. What you must realize is that NOTHING is going to change, and nothing will make it better, unless you sit down and talk to him. Be mature, see things from his point of view (as hard is it can be....), and talk civially. That's the only thing that will get you progress at this moment. Okay?

And don't be calling your dad a 'cheap liar,' and don't be hating him. He's busted his butt for you, at one point or another, if not at several points. He loves you dearly. He tries his hardest to be the best he can be. So show some respect, he deserves it.
He doesn't even pay for my school fees, it makes it hard when u ppl telling me how my father deserves respect, i know i should have never trusted his word. Because he has previously not payed for my basic needs, luckily i have more than jst a couple of relatives to pay for my basic needs.

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post #57 of 105 Old 05-26-2013, 10:29 PM
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Suddenly, some of all this isn't ringing true.

From the OP's first post...

At the moment father is paying agistment and said he would pay for horse insurance....

I'm beginning to wonder just how much of any of this is true since it has been said he previously has not even paid for her basic needs. A father who doesn't pay for schooling or basic needs, but is willing to pay horse boarding?

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post #58 of 105 Old 05-26-2013, 10:34 PM
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can be easily done...father gets child horse, to shut them up, doesnt feel the need to pay anything else
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post #59 of 105 Old 05-26-2013, 10:39 PM
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Well I guess she is better off than millions of children across the world, who don't have access to a computer. Millions of girls who would love to have a horse. Millions who would love to have (obviously) several people around her who do take care of her needs. Not that having a horse is a 'need', but a luxury which few have.

I think as this thread went along, things changed or were brought up later. I seem to remember another young girl on this forum, some time ago. Similar complaints and also from Australia.

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post #60 of 105 Old 05-26-2013, 10:47 PM
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Lizzie, I wouldn't be so quick to judge without figuring out what's really going on.

Here's what I gather:

Olivia's father told her he would pay for the horse, and that it was 'hid' horse. She had money saved for vet bills / emergencies, but ended up using that to purchase the horse. Now she's worried because she doesn't have the vet money, and her father backed out and said he wont pay for insurance. He is paying board right now, but because it's more expensive than he thought it was might be pulling that.

She says she's not living at home, I don't know the terms in Australia (and can't scroll back while I post) but I assume it's like a foster care situation? That right there says maybe this thread isn't the whole story, and while she shouldn't be bashing her father PERHAPS her father is more in the wrong than we are aware. While we don't know the whole story, the whole story isn't out business- she has told us that in the past he hasn't paid for her basic needs. This whole thing adds up to a father who tried to 'win back' his daughter, and then gave up on it.

While yes, Olivia is reacting like a 'spoiled teenager' she is just a teenager, and all teenagers have occasional melt downs. IF her troubles are real (as I expect they are, just given the way she writes, the 'mind set' she seems to be in) most of the people commenting are adults, and should maybe sit back a little bit and give her a chance to explain without being flustered and accusing her of being a troll? Living in a foster care type situation really isn't the best scenario, even if you're living with different family members. It's far from the 'lucky, well off ideal' that some people think she's living, it's tough. And sometimes it's TOO tough and you say things that might come off as 'immature'.

It does look like Olivia is trying to be a responsible horse owner, despite the baggage she has with her dad and their rotten relationship and just got a little fired up.

(EDIT: just note that this whole post wasn't directed solely at Lizzie, though the first part was addressing her reply).
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