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post #1 of 27 Old 09-23-2013, 06:54 AM Thread Starter
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found my horses original owner but....

A coworker gave me my boy 3 years ago, and I love him to bits. I knew she had gotten him ( free I believe) about 9 months before, he was not working for her ( too slow..) and when I took him he was severely underweight.

I can tell he has some show experience, seems to know a lot. But since my coworker did not know much about him, I did not have much to go on. And have always wondered about his past, what he knows, how he was trained etc.

Last spring the coworker moved, and "just happened " to remember that another coworker ( who i did not know at all) knew his original owner. So I introduced myself to the other coworker and told her I am Sam's mom now. ANd would love to get in touch with the original owner and learn more about him (including some medical questions.) SHe promised to talk to the original owner and give her my contact info. Said she was sure she would be very happy to talk to me.

Fast forward about 6 months now.. and despite the fact she told the coworker she would get in touch with me she hasnt. I pretty much gave up.
Then yesterday the coworker told me she found out the reason the owner never got in touch with me. Apparently when she gave Sam to the gal I got him from, it was with the agreement that if she ever did not want him, he would go back to the owner. So she was NOT happy to hear he had been given to ME. And does not feel she can talk to me till she has gotten over it.

So now I am fretting that ( if after 6 months she is still not over it! and was complaining about it still... ) she will contact me and want him back. ANd I am sure there is nothing legal I could do to fight it. No bill of sale ( he was given to me...) and I have no idea if there was anything written up when he was given to the previous owner or not...

Does anyone know how the law would go on this? She has not asked for him back, but she has my contact info and COULD... Has anyone had a situation like this? He has been 'mine' for 3 years now... i have asked the coworker to assure her that he is VERY loved and cared for and happy in his new home..but I still am fretting...
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post #2 of 27 Old 09-23-2013, 06:58 AM
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This is why I stopped looking into my horse's past.. what difference does it make to know? Really I could live without knowing since he's fine and dandy now.

Do you have any supporting documents that you have been paying for this horse's upkeep, etc. for the past 3 years?
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post #3 of 27 Old 09-23-2013, 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Skyseternalangel View Post
This is why I stopped looking into my horse's past.. what difference does it make to know? Really I could live without knowing since he's fine and dandy now.

Do you have any supporting documents that you have been paying for this horse's upkeep, etc. for the past 3 years?

You know, I've always wanted to know things about my horse's past, but now that you put it like this- it makes sense.
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post #4 of 27 Old 09-23-2013, 07:14 AM Thread Starter
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since I have been paying board on him, i am sure the bank has all the canceled check info... vet bills,,,all that jazz... I guess I could tell her that she can have him if she wants to pay me all that back... Wont ever happen...
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post #5 of 27 Old 09-23-2013, 07:16 AM
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Seems that if there was a written agreement, she would have tried to claim him within the last 6 months. Enjoy your horse now, don't fret and cross any bridge if/when it comes.
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post #6 of 27 Old 09-23-2013, 07:40 AM
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Even if she tried to push the issue, the likely hood of her being able to get him back is very, very slim to non-existent - even if she did have a contract. First right of refusal/buy back options are rarely worth the paper they are written on and are there more to comfort the original owner than give real protection to the horse. I've used them on sales in the past, but it was more to let the person I was selling the horse to that I was interested in what happened to him and wanted a chance at him, rather than believing that it was guaranteeing me a chance to get the horse back. Even though it was in writing I knew full well I was at the mercy of the new owner on if it would be honored or not.

It sounds like she is upset that the person she gave the horse to did not honor their agreement - especially if she gave the horse to her in good faith and was never even notified that the horse changed hands. Its understandable. But just because she is upset does not mean she will try to get the horse back even if she legally could. Give her some time to collect herself and maybe you will get your answers. Some people take longer to get over things than others.
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post #7 of 27 Old 09-23-2013, 08:22 AM
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How concerned about the horse could she possibly be if you've had him for three years and she had no idea?

Sure she could ask for him back but that doesn't obligate you to send him to her. It would be a she said/she said thing in court and she would have to lawyer up to give it an attempt. I wouldn't worry too much about it. I definitely wouldn't tell her where he was though.
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post #8 of 27 Old 09-23-2013, 09:59 AM
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I bought my first horse from a young college student. She was a bay mare, named Toby. I was anxious to know all about her past, and the young man gave me the info. I called the previous owner, and told her all about Toby, and how she was doing, she told me, this couldn't possibly be the same horse she sold the young man. She said Toby was wild, uncontrollable, and very dangerous. I was stunned, my horse was a sweet gentle mare. He had previously boarded her, and it left me wondering if he had just gone to the pasture and got the first bay mare he could catch. My dad convinced me to stop, fearing I would end up losing my horse.
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post #9 of 27 Old 09-23-2013, 10:08 AM
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Y'all are missing the point entirely.

The OP may have had the horse for 3 years but the previous owner just found out about her supposed friend's betrayal less than a year ago, so to her it's a fairly recent occurrence. This isn't about the OP, it's about the previous owner's anger at the person to whom she gave the horse and trusted to do the right thing if they no longer wanted or couldn't afford to keep him.

I'd say the previous owner is being quite the adult about the whole issue, and is doing the rational thing by not taking it out on the OP. She's hurt, shocked and feeling totally betrayed by someone she trusted. This has nothing to do with the OP, and she doesn't owe the OP any communication at all.

I find those of you questioning the previous owner's commitment to this animal rather petty, as you haven't taken her feelings into consideration in this whole mess. She trusted someone, and they took her trust and stomped it into the dirt.

OP, sometimes we shouldn't turn over rocks because we won't like what we find under them. I think you've just learned that lesson.

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post #10 of 27 Old 09-23-2013, 10:21 AM
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OP, sometimes we shouldn't turn over rocks because we won't like what we find under them. I think you've just learned that lesson.
agree 100%. I don't dig into my horses past for this reason. I've done discreet searching before, but never contacted previous owners. I have a mare that had at least 4 owners before me, and possibly many more, but I really don't want to know, in case something like this pops up.
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