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post #21 of 28 Old 09-22-2013, 11:08 PM
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For a bunch of hypothetical studs they look pretty awesome Nice to see that they have all been out and proven themselves competing, you know their strengths.

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Now, I've always loved SBR Formula One. IMHO, he's one of those rare studs that are true successful all-arounders.

Too Slick Two Watch looks like a mainly performance horse and something like him might have trouble being successful in WP, but he'd excel in anything speed or power oriented. He's got Watch Joe Jack in his lines which is a huge deal to me. My Dad had 2 sons of WJJ and they were both the most amazing horses. Their temperaments (one gelding, one stud) couldn't be beat. I had ridden both of them, even though I was only somewhere around 7 at the time. The stud, Watch Ole Man, I only rode in the arena around home and Dad used me to ride him for his sale ad video.

Olena's Holey Sox would likely produce the same type, great at power and speed events, probably not so great at pleasure.

Given the choice, I'd go with Formula One first if he complemented the mare, then I'd go with TSTW second. I like him better than the Olena horse, but that may just be because I love his lines.


Oh, and let me clarify about the WP thing with those 2. IMHO, they would train for it well and do it well for my taste, but I don't think it's likely that most judges above lower levels would place them well in a class.
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I've been researching trainers. I found one that specializes in reining about an hour away but haven't e-mailed her yet. If I do this, I need to find someone that will give me lessons on their horses as I have nothing to use for this type of riding and I will have at least three years before I'm in the saddle anyway.

Another dumb question... These are high energy horses, are they quiet? Are they explosive or do they come with on off switches?

I know, dumb questions but that world and my world are 2 very different worlds. I'm actually looking into a place that teaches team penning and cutting.

I just want a change and I want to ENJOY myself again. Another stupid question is... I don't have a huge arena. I have a small one. For training purposes would that matter? It's grass now and I think it would need to be sand for definite.

I love the look of the second busckin (TooSlick) and I love the write up and the style of the chestnut but that first buckskin looks like a no-loose pick.

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I don't know these people or anything about them but they aren't crazy far from me, they do offer lessons and they have a couple studs. I know nothing about this whole world but it looks like it would be really fun to get into. I wonder if I should contact them about lessons?

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These are some great prospects. I'm not an expert at this but just by looking at the possible Sires, I really like the third one (liver chestnut/sorrel).

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Another dumb question... These are high energy horses, are they quiet? Are they explosive or do they come with on off switches?

Not dumb questions at all! I can only speak in generalities since I don't personally know the horses in question, but IME, many of the performance bred horses for cutting and team roping have the potential to be very high energy, but with the correct training, they learn to have a controlled energy. That way, they are perfectly calm, but you feel like you are riding a coiled spring that can go from zero to mach 3 in any direction in an instant. For a really good idea on temperament, I'd either go see the studs myself or ask for a video of them being ridden outside their discipline; loping circles in an arena or going down a trail.

Heck, you know as well as anyone how similarly bred horses can be completely different LOL. I've got 2 Doc Olena bred horses in my pasture; one is 100% kid and beginner safe, the other I wouldn't even trust with most experienced riders. Those 2 TEJ horses my Dad had when I was a kid were awesome, but I've heard of folks that hate TEJ horses because they are "broncy" or "stubborn" *shrugs*.

I know, dumb questions but that world and my world are 2 very different worlds. I'm actually looking into a place that teaches team penning and cutting.

Another thing to keep in mind that certain disciplines are more likely to cause a hot blooded horse without proper training to keep them level-headed. Disciplines like barrels and poles, you are aware of, but roping events can also make a horse very forward. So, if TSTW is a little chargey, I wouldn't blame it on his breeding.

I just want a change and I want to ENJOY myself again. Another stupid question is... I don't have a huge arena. I have a small one. For training purposes would that matter? It's grass now and I think it would need to be sand for definite.
That depends on what discipline you plan to do. For team penning or sorting, you really don't need to have a special type of footing in your arena, though I'd likely plow it just to make it easier on their legs. For cutting, I'm not sure exactly what kind of footing you'd need but it would need to be deep. For reining, you'd definitely need a special footing, but I'm not sure what kind.

Reining is also the only one that you'd really need a very large arena for. the others are easy to practice in a relatively small arena and that actually makes it easier because you aren't having to chase the cattle 200 yards to the other end LOL.

Most of the arenas that cutting trainers I've seen use are about the size of large roundpens. That gives them enough room to cut off one from the herd but makes it so they don't need turnback men because the fence is right there.

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This is my sister in laws mare: Poco Tango Machine Quarter Horse

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She is 19 and has not been ridden very much since she severed her tendons so there is little to no muscle tone on this mare other than what she has naturally.
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