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post #11 of 22 Old 04-17-2013, 10:54 PM
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A white freeze brand will eventually disappear as the horse goes through the greying process. Due to this they tend to leave the brand on a grey for a longer period which kills the hair follicles and will make the freeze brand look more like a hot iron brand with no hair left.
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Cat, that was my concern. I have one very light gray and one heading that way. I hate to do it twice.
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We've been looking into freeze brands as well and had the same worry since my husband's horse is grey. The pics I saw showed up we'll because the dark skin contrasted nicely with the light grey coat. They sometimes opt to do it this way on lighter palominos as well.

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I want a very noticeable brand. Ok, so now this question. If ya freeze brand hard enough to remove hair/scarring more or less. Is there any benifit over hot branding?
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in my opinion no, if you are going to forgo the entire scaring to create hair change color than just go with a hot brand. The freeze brand may already require a longer time and to add that would be unnecessary. I also think that a hot brand may have less of a chance for being obscure.

I think another factor is where are you branding? Neck? Hip or shoulder? I only ask because I have seen a number of horses with neck freeze brands where there mane was overgrown and you would never know they had a brand unless you went looking for it. So, for theft prevention I would suggest a shoulder or the hip because they can't be hidden as easily. For some reason I don't care for the hot brand on the shoulder or gaskin (its personal but I feel like the muscle is not big enough or something).

The other options to prevent horse theft I have heard of are microchipping. Which is something to consider but I would not use simply because its not common enough. To my knowledge auction houses and veterinarians are not in the standard practice of scanning a horse for a chip. So, even if its more humane than a brand if its not scanned it might as well not be there. Since branding no matter what kind causes discomfort and pain (in my opinion) we should seek to reduce that to the best of our ability which means using the shortest application possible.
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My intention is to brand the hip. I'm sure I could get em chipped, but I think that'd be pretty useless around here.
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I personally don't like hot brands, never have been a fan. They are hard for me to really notice, and don't show up for squat on light colored horses.

A freeze brand to me looks a lot crisper and overall turns out better....and I would rather have a freezing object stuck to my skin vs a scolding hot object. I have been burned and oh does it hurt....especially when it blisters and scabs :)

Also freeze brands WILL show up on light colored horses, especially when you do it correct and go for a "bald brand" which instead of killing the color follicle it kills the hair follicle completely and grows back bald like this brand...





Also a hot brand DOES NOT kill the hair....it leaves pretty much a blotchy risen scar. And doesn't really turn out well on grey horses....we had a grey gelding and unless you knew he was branded you would never be able to find it or see it.



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If it helps any (probably doesnt) ive known a black mare with a freeze brand in her late 20s early 30s and it never changed color from white-- had her since she was 10 and never had any problems with legibility- no black hairs intermixed -stayed really clean lookin.. i have no idea how long it was left on her but it looked just like any other freezebrand ive ever seen.. i think they do last longer than hot brands.. dont you have to redo hot brands?
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Honestly, the legibility of brands, hot or cold, depend on how well they are done.

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And see, why I ask questions. I agree that the gray brand is more my goal. And from my understanding, it's a timing thing. As far as the typicall freeze brand vs a bald brand.
We had a ranch horse that was branded, and in August it was clear as day. Rest of the year not so much.
I just want a clear, easily identifiable brand. The brand is simple, but unique.
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