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post #1 of 10 Old 09-09-2013, 07:31 AM Thread Starter
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frustrated with farrier

Little rant* I have to get this out

I am taking over my nieces grade QH. Starting out "leasing" him until I sell a saddle to actually buy him from her. So with that I am buying his feed, shots worming, farrier, ect. My horse is there at her parents house with him. So it will be nice for me to have two riding horses instead of just one. Her only request was that I of course dont sell him without asking her first (( If I ever do sell down the road even after buying him )) and keep her current farrier... To get along and make the transition go smoothy I abide reluctantly with the farrier part.
Ive used her farrier before and dumped him because I dont like his work, and he dont care to communicate with me. Now I have dumped my current farrier for her so I dont have to deal w/two diff guys coming out to work on two diff horses...Grrrrr!
Just had a trim done on the boys yesterday and let me tell you I could have done a better job and I dont know how to do it! He just trimmed and I swear one hoof on the front is shorter than the other I must, I must hurry and get the money to pay off this horse to close the deal so I can use who I like as a farrier!! I do not agree with her on this - the only reason she keep's him around is because he is a family friend..My horses feet were uneven and choppy looking by the time this guy was finished w/him, so not happy..Gritting teeth!
Sorry had to get this little rant out, and I have to hurry to close the deal on this horse before any problems arise..The farrier asked me so why did I get fired?! Referring as to why I stopped using him. I said well, wanted to try something different...And he was aging it on and pressing me as to why I quit using him?! "Really bothered me" Grit teeth and get through this hump..I also told him this was temporary I didnt want to have to keep two diff farriers for each horse..
Later after he finished I told my niece that he does not do pretty work at all..And she said well I would rather have *good work than just pretty work...WTH??!!!! grrrrrrrr!!!!! Frustrated..

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post #2 of 10 Old 09-09-2013, 09:52 AM
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this is your fault. You knew the farrier was no good but you agreed anyway. Time to renegotiate the lease.
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post #3 of 10 Old 09-09-2013, 10:49 AM
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You should be honest with the farrier and tell him you found someone more suited to the job.

You should also take control. Family is family, and I can understand the buy back contract, a lot of people do it... but farrier? Jog on. That is pushing it.

My advice would be take pictures of the work done and whack it up on here so our hoof experts can give you a good idea of what has been done and what needs to change. Then next time, if you don't change farrier TELL him what he needs. I noticed in my area that after a year or so a farrier would get very lazy in the job because they had your money and a customer base. A lot of them failed to keep hold of customers, however.
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post #4 of 10 Old 09-09-2013, 11:16 AM
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Agree with Duffy. Post pics, save responses, show them to your niece, and tell her flat out, family or not, my farrier from now on. If all else fails, pay her a little for the horse, and do a written contract. Very important!
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post #5 of 10 Old 09-10-2013, 01:32 PM Thread Starter
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Dont have time to read posts...Both of my horses back feet are now swollen and he can hardly freaking walk!!!! Be back to post soon

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post #6 of 10 Old 09-10-2013, 01:48 PM
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I would stick it out keeping 2 different farriers until you're able to switch the new horse to the better farrier. No point in having two lame horses

Also, your niece needs to realize that once she sells her horse, she has no say in what happens to him. You'll be changing farriers, and if you want/need to sell him, you don't need her permission. Giving her the courtesy of letting her know in case she wants to buy him back is one thing, but she can't require you to do even that.
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post #7 of 10 Old 09-10-2013, 05:13 PM Thread Starter
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Okay, here now. Thanks for all the reply's and listening to my rant. I was so frustrated.."Still am"
But I went down to brush water and ect. Gave my guy a dose of bute..I'll see how he is tomorrow..After thinking about it he may just be tender from not having on shoes now. I had them pulled off and just a trim this go around.

verona You said it..That was my original plan..She does have the option to buy him back if that time ever arrives and ditto on her not having say what I do once I do buy him out right. When I give her the cash her opinions on farrier stuff is out the door, but right now I am leasing so to speak so she can save money and I can gain the money with time to buy.

deserthorsewoman I never thought of a written contract w/her - it never popped in my head because she is family. It was a verbal thing we did..I pay for his feed so she dont have to sell him right away and I work towards payments or what have you till I pay him off..Her only request was that I keep her farrier for him..( I dont think that its his work that she so much loves, its the fact that he is a FAMILY friend to them ) She wants to keep the business going for him. I dont care for the guy or his work..This is a headache All kinds of things are going through my head today on this.
I thought it would be fine to use her farrier just until I do pay off Jack then do as I will and want to do after...I just have to get through this part.

DuffyDuck What you are saying is funny! Lol I couldnt do that because I had him do my horse for me. I didnt want to be rude..Give him the opportunity without a doubt type thing. But, still without a doubt I am not happy w/his work. (( Call him to do my horse then tell him he got fired from his work/ In return he would of said why then am I working on your horse now?! )) ummmmm because I am stuck in a situation.
I did however make it a point that I am taking over Jack so both horses are and will be mine..My niece will be out of the picture. So he knows and I am sure he has a feeling I will dump him again.

Joe I know its my fault ha ha!! I thought I could get through this situation smooth sailing~ Apparently not.

So, what it boils down to is I need to sell saddle fast to come up w/the cash to get him sooner than I thought..Or just talk to the husband and see if we can just go ahead and buy him now to get through this...As of now my husband does not know what I am going through w/this..He knew the farrier was working on my horse and I told him a bit about the situation, but he dont know all of it yet. I'll tell him to just let me buy him now to get rid of the third wheel and when the saddle sells it can go into our savings..

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post #8 of 10 Old 09-10-2013, 05:42 PM
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I feel your pain Charley horse! i am also leasing (sadly without any purchase option down the road), and the horse's owner is quite adamant that his farrier be used and no others. also adamant that horse has shoes on all four, with no break from them at all in at least 4 years. so here i am dealing with long toes, under-run heels, multiple nail holes weakening hoof wall, hooves that are shaped to fit the shoe and not vice versa (the correct way!), and a horse that stumbles most likely due to shoddy farrier work.
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Okay, here now. Thanks for all the reply's and listening to my rant. I was so frustrated.."Still am"
But I went down to brush water and ect. Gave my guy a dose of bute..I'll see how he is tomorrow..After thinking about it he may just be tender from not having on shoes now. I had them pulled off and just a trim this go around.

verona You said it..That was my original plan..She does have the option to buy him back if that time ever arrives and ditto on her not having say what I do once I do buy him out right. When I give her the cash her opinions on farrier stuff is out the door, but right now I am leasing so to speak so she can save money and I can gain the money with time to buy.

deserthorsewoman I never thought of a written contract w/her - it never popped in my head because she is family. It was a verbal thing we did..I pay for his feed so she dont have to sell him right away and I work towards payments or what have you till I pay him off..Her only request was that I keep her farrier for him..( I dont think that its his work that she so much loves, its the fact that he is a FAMILY friend to them ) She wants to keep the business going for him. I dont care for the guy or his work..This is a headache All kinds of things are going through my head today on this.
I thought it would be fine to use her farrier just until I do pay off Jack then do as I will and want to do after...I just have to get through this part.

DuffyDuck What you are saying is funny! Lol I couldnt do that because I had him do my horse for me. I didnt want to be rude..Give him the opportunity without a doubt type thing. But, still without a doubt I am not happy w/his work. (( Call him to do my horse then tell him he got fired from his work/ In return he would of said why then am I working on your horse now?! )) ummmmm because I am stuck in a situation.
I did however make it a point that I am taking over Jack so both horses are and will be mine..My niece will be out of the picture. So he knows and I am sure he has a feeling I will dump him again.

Joe I know its my fault ha ha!! I thought I could get through this situation smooth sailing~ Apparently not.

So, what it boils down to is I need to sell saddle fast to come up w/the cash to get him sooner than I thought..Or just talk to the husband and see if we can just go ahead and buy him now to get through this...As of now my husband does not know what I am going through w/this..He knew the farrier was working on my horse and I told him a bit about the situation, but he dont know all of it yet. I'll tell him to just let me buy him now to get rid of the third wheel and when the saddle sells it can go into our savings..
There ya go. Maybe a couple of tears....about the lame horse.....ya know.....
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post #10 of 10 Old 09-10-2013, 11:43 PM Thread Starter
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I am P O'd about the lameness....."I knew it!" dessert..I am not keeping this farrier for my current horse..I am just going to tell him next time I see him my horse went lame after his trim - FLAT OUT
But will keep her farrier for our other guy till he is bought...Grrrrrrrr

So sorry edmontonhorsegal. I dont know what it is about ppl and their commitment to these farriers that do bad work?! I sat right there and told my niece his work is not pretty, in fact kinda lazzzyyyy.

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