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post #1 of 17 Old 08-07-2013, 12:21 AM Thread Starter
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gelding question

Hello, I'm asking this question for my sister. Her almost 4 year old Arab gelding (gelded at around 9mo) is very interested in our mares when they go into heat. She wants to know if it is normal for horses gelded at a young age to still be interested in mares when they go into heat. Thanks
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Is he dropping and attempting to mount, and otherwise acting studdy?

I would say he is a rig, or proud cut.

Vet can test to see if secreting too much testosterone and there are things that can be done if he is.

Other than one that is proud cut, I've never seen one carry on much with mares.

Best to get vet to check.

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My 4yo draft cross gelding was gelded at 2yo. He had never shown any interest in mares, ever. He was even turned out with an extremely hormonal older mare who was basically always in heat and never showed a lick of interest. In the past eight months, since moving him to the new barn we're at, he had become quite the ladies' man. If there's a mare in heat anywhere within a half mile, he turns into a prancing, arrogant mess who forgets all his manners.

I don't know if it's normal for that age or what, just sharing my experience with a gelding of the same age.
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Is he dropping and attempting to mount, and otherwise acting studdy?

I would say he is a rig, or proud cut.

Vet can test to see if secreting too much testosterone and there are things that can be done if he is.

Other than one that is proud cut, I've never seen one carry on much with mares.

Best to get vet to check.
What is a rig and proud cut? She said he is dropping but not attempting to mount but sniffing and licking I guess... She said he lifted up her fly sheet and was sniffing around her rump lol clever little guy
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Proud cut means that they didn't remove all of the reproductive parts and he could still make babies.

I would say that his actions are normal. Everything you mentioned is normal for most geldings, especially ones that have done the dirty deed before being gelded. If he was acting on his instincts and trying to mount the mares, I would have a vet check him out for being proud cut.
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I have a fourteen year old gelding that we've had since he was a yearling. He was gelded at one year, never showed any interest what-so-ever in mares. The last two years, he has been a ladies man. He drops and gets an erection, nickers at Chilly in that studdish way but he never goes any further then that. He has never mounted her, or attempted to (that I have seen) he is very herd-bound to his girl too. Naughty-naughty.

but, when he does drop and start acting like this I get after him. I'll chase him away and make him put it away. I do not find it acceptable behavior. He was gelding for a reason and he should act like it. He knows when I come after him what is going to happen and his "happy part" immediately deflates.

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Proud cut is a fallacy.

http://csu-cvmbs.colostate.edu/Docum...dcut-apr09.pdf

Some horses will have an instinct but often it is the mare that keeps pestering them that teachers them to behave as a stud would.

I once had a gelding that had run in a mixed herd all his life. He had never shown any stallion instincts until he was turned out with a little mare that had been a brood mare for years. She was empty that year and pestered him until he was doing the full deed. He was not a cryptorchid and had been gelded at 5 months old.
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I've seen geldings who will get study with mares when they are in heat and show off for them, etc. They still have instincts, even if they are way cut down by being gelded.

I recently moved my mare to a new barn and she just came in heat and I've never seen her so... umm... determined before. She has had one of the geldings sniffing around her a little, but the horse who is acting the most studdish and even tried to mount her is another mare.
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If he was gelded correctly and everything was removed that needed to go, he will most likely lose interest eventually. It's just a different smell. They have a 42 second attention span....mmmmmaaaarrrreee...look a piece of grass!
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If he is really interested and starts mounting mares them have the vet do a blood test.

I have a gelding, and I use the term lightly, I got him as a four year old who had been gelded two months before I got him, he was gelded late because he had a testicle that did not descend, and they supposedly did the surgery to remove the nu-descended testicle. Well about five months after I got him he mounted my mare who was in heat, I did not think much about it. Well he kept acting more like a stallion, event got a cresty neck, started getting aggressive towards my other horses, and me. I had the vet do a blood test to check his testosterone levels and he was off the charts even for a breeding stud. Vet said he most likely had testicular tissue left from when he was gelded. I took him in and had surgery done to remove the tissue, after half an hour of digging around elbow deep in my horse the vet found some tissue, removed it. Next blood test done three months later his testosterone was still elevated, vet tells me he can go in on the other side and look for tissue, or even another testicle. I told him no I was not going through it again. So I have a cryptorchid which as long as I have him and am aware of his stallion tendencies and can deal with him is fine, but heaven forbid something happens to me there are ethical issues when dealing with this type of horse.
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