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post #11 of 17 Old 08-07-2013, 09:07 PM Thread Starter
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Proud cut is a fallacy.

http://csu-cvmbs.colostate.edu/Docum...dcut-apr09.pdf

Some horses will have an instinct but often it is the mare that keeps pestering them that teachers them to behave as a stud would.

I once had a gelding that had run in a mixed herd all his life. He had never shown any stallion instincts until he was turned out with a little mare that had been a brood mare for years. She was empty that year and pestered him until he was doing the full deed. He was not a cryptorchid and had been gelded at 5 months old.

I know exactly what you're talking about. The mare that's in heat right now is like a fly that won't leave him alone. She always has her butt in his face I finally had to spray her with the hose so she would leave him alone. She's also being men to the other mares
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I've seen geldings who will get study with mares when they are in heat and show off for them, etc. They still have instincts, even if they are way cut down by being gelded.

I recently moved my mare to a new barn and she just came in heat and I've never seen her so... umm... determined before. She has had one of the geldings sniffing around her a little, but the horse who is acting the most studdish and even tried to mount her is another mare.

Lol that's kind of funny. At I barn that I used to board at there was a Shetland pony "gelding" that shared a stall with a mini mare And when she went into heat he would loose his little mind was constantly mounting and penetrating her. She would squeal and kick and try to get away from him. I guess the barn owner didn't have enough since to move him to another area seeing as it was her pony and the Mini was a boarder's.
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I know exactly what you're talking about. The mare that's in heat right now is like a fly that won't leave him alone. She always has her butt in his face I finally had to spray her with the hose so she would leave him alone. She's also being men to the other mares
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One of my best friends had a mare like this. She was a tiny 14hh Arab. My friend was under the impression that she was in her late teens, but she was actually in her mid-twenties. She had a hormone imbalance that the vet likened to menopause in women. She basically acted like she was in heat all the time. She claimed our other friend's Arab gelding as hers and hated anyone going near him, horse or person. My friend finally had to rehome her because another boarder (after being told not to) stalled her mare next to my friend's mare and my friend's mare charged the fence. She stopped so hard that she bowed both her front tendons. My friend had two horses at the time (the mare and an Arab gelding) and couldn't afford to keep a horse she wasn't able to use. It was insane how crazy that mare would get, though. She actually charged down my friend several times when she went in to clean her stall.
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Proud cut means that they didn't remove all of the reproductive parts and he could still make babies.

I would say that his actions are normal. Everything you mentioned is normal for most geldings, especially ones that have done the dirty deed before being gelded. If he was acting on his instincts and trying to mount the mares, I would have a vet check him out for being proud cut.
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I agree - perfectly normal. The percentage of horse that are "proud cut" these days is so insignificant as render the issue history. The only instances of being "proud cut" today are if a vet unethically gelds a monorchid without taking the undescended testicle too, or if some yahoo farrier or do-it-yourselfer does the gelding, which is rarely the case these days...
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One of my geldings will drop and get hard when my mare is teasing him. He's never attempted to mount her to my knowledge though.
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One of my best friends had a mare like this. She was a tiny 14hh Arab. My friend was under the impression that she was in her late teens, but she was actually in her mid-twenties. She had a hormone imbalance that the vet likened to menopause in women. She basically acted like she was in heat all the time. She claimed our other friend's Arab gelding as hers and hated anyone going near him, horse or person. My friend finally had to rehome her because another boarder (after being told not to) stalled her mare next to my friend's mare and my friend's mare charged the fence. She stopped so hard that she bowed both her front tendons. My friend had two horses at the time (the mare and an Arab gelding) and couldn't afford to keep a horse she wasn't able to use. It was insane how crazy that mare would get, though. She actually charged down my friend several times when she went in to clean her stall.
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oooh thats not good at all, I hope your friend was not hurt. the mare that is in heat now is a 5 y.o 16hh OTTB but shes not aggressive towards me or anything like that, but is being a pain in the *** to the gelding lol... i I have her in another field with my other mare she is behaving herself now but im thinking its because the other mare is a the boss lol and will go after her if she gets out of line with her.
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I agree - perfectly normal. The percentage of horse that are "proud cut" these days is so insignificant as render the issue history. The only instances of being "proud cut" today are if a vet unethically gelds a monorchid without taking the undescended testicle too, or if some yahoo farrier or do-it-yourselfer does the gelding, which is rarely the case these days...
It does still happen. Our most recent gelding was. If I remember correctly, he did impregnate a mare so they had him recut. That was before we got him. He definitely filled out like a stallion in his neck. I don't know if it was done on purpose or a fluke.




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