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post #1 of 40 Old 05-20-2013, 05:51 PM Thread Starter
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Grade horse, showing

Okay so i found a grade qh gelding where i live on fb, and i am curious how does one register a grade horse if they want to show is it worth it to register the horse if they are showing locally?, i have heard of microchipping a horse, as well as other ways of registering the horse online and getting papers. Also do grade horses make good horses? i have heard there are two sides of the story but i want to hear personally from those who have a grade horse. I have always ridden registered quarter horses. Is it worth the risk getting a grade horse because you may not know its past history and possible dieases it could get in the future. Thanks
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post #2 of 40 Old 05-20-2013, 06:02 PM
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Ridiculous to say that grade horses don't make good horses. The only difference is that they don't have papers.

If you are only going to show locally, I would say its not worth to go through the $$$ of registering. Plus, you've still got to have some sort of proof of parentage if you do decide to register an older horse (or so I believe, although I've never done an older horse). I do know that it is very pricey to register an older horse.
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post #3 of 40 Old 05-20-2013, 06:12 PM
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I have 3 grade horses. There's no real effective registry, that I'm aware of. I'll be branding mine soon, it's really the only way to positively prove ownership.

Unless you're doing breed shows, being grade or papered makes no difference at all.

Grade horses are just as "good" of horses as any papered horses. Thing is there's junk, dink, crippled horses that are papered to the moon and grades.

To me a good horse is a good horse, papers or no papers.
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post #4 of 40 Old 05-20-2013, 06:28 PM Thread Starter
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@ phly whether you have a registered horse or non registered horse you are taking a chance of it developing diseases, have you had any issues with your grade horses? Like joint issues, diseases etc. I'm not saying it just happens to grade horses, I'm just curious with your. Experiences with them.
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post #5 of 40 Old 05-20-2013, 06:43 PM
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I think a grade horse can be as good as any other, and even better than some.

Purpose bred/registered horses are good, and I do tend to think that the most excellent horses are bred for that purpose (and therefore registered). However, I think most people are aware that you can come across some registered horses with poor conformation, poor temperaments and little to no talent.

So I think if you were to be looking for a horse that has not been specifically bred to excel in a specific discipline, then the only real difference between having a grade horse or a registered horse are papers, and of course value.

Although, just like any horse, it's your responsibility to choose one that suits you. In grade horses there are ranges of quality, from strange backyard crossbreeds to beautifully conformed, athletic horses. When you're looking at a specific registered breed they're all going to be of a similar type, where as a grade horse can be almost anything. You would do the same disease checking as with any other horse.

Showing... well I don't know. I suppose you can just do regular showing, ridden hack, etc but you will not be able to compete in breed shows and classes, which if you're serious about doing, can be a big downside. From my experience, there are no real registrations that will improve your showing experience that do not require parentage, the exception may be some colour registries, if your horse is coloured.

I've mostly owned "grade" horses and they were more than adequate for what I wanted to do, low level - dressage, jumping, showing, pony club, trail riding etc.
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Being registered means diddly squat when it comes to diseases, joint problems or health. There is no scientific proof that a registered horse has less health issues than an unpapered one, IT'S A NON ISSUE!
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post #7 of 40 Old 05-20-2013, 06:48 PM
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If you are just going to do local shows and such there is no sense in going through the trouble of trying to find a suitable registery if one at all.

Just enjoy your horse in all its muttpony glory. lol (I have had plenty of grade horses, all different, all great!)
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post #8 of 40 Old 05-20-2013, 06:53 PM
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My grade horse did better than my registered AQHA mare. He's got better Confo, better health only difference is he has no papers and I have no clue about his parentage other than his dam.

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Our QP is possibly cushings (but that's a lil different, any pony can get cushings) is our only major health issue. And that's out of a small herd of grades we've owned. I try to buy sound horses though. I've also owned one gelding that was sound, but was a nut job, he was papered to the moon! All 3 of our current are performance horses that run almost every weekend.

The QP is mid20's and grade, rides trails 2 miles everyday. Lopes circles etc... Daily. Rides double and ropes. Never been lame in almost 3yrs we've owned her.

A lil something to think about is, sometimes grades were register able but never were, or the ex-wife (or ex-hubby) took the papers in a divorce, or a trader got ahold of em, or the breeder was lazy or simply didn't want to. Papers can go away. Leaving a grade horse.
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So when looking a grade horse how do you tell a good conformation, the same as a any horse? Are there things to be aware of, or red flags?
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