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post #11 of 31 Old 07-23-2013, 06:40 PM
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I'll play devil's advocate. They now have a clone and a limited number of straws since the original is sterile. Someone needs more money adds a few deposits and no one is the wiser...... a now seemingly never ending supply with the world being none the wiser.
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A clone will not be the same as the original. I dont think the cloned hroses should be registered. The frozen semen needs to be logged and registered with the AQHA, so when its gone, its gone, and no adding to the supply from the clone.
It is a cute foal. I think if I needed a new kidney, liver, heart , knee hip etc and they could clone one that would be healthier than the defective one, and it was affordable, I would do it. If it prolonged and improved my life. To do a whole being.No thats wrong.
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post #13 of 31 Old 07-23-2013, 09:45 PM
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I dont think the cloned hroses should be registered.
I agree with you 100%. If they did what would it mean to the breeding industry. It's already bad enough they consider that to be legal, let alone if they start being able to be part of registries. Im really worried that the idea will become more "normal" and it will become something that they allow inside registries. I pray it never does.
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My dad always said " Don't [mess] with Mother Nature".
I believe that is a can of worms we should not open.
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post #15 of 31 Old 07-23-2013, 10:01 PM
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I don't think clones should be registered either. 1. There is too many unknowns long term and 2. If you keep throwing the same combination of genes into the mix how are you really improving on anything?
It will probably eventually be allowed though.

So in lies the madness, the pursuit of the impossible in the face of the complete assurance that you will fail, and yet still you chase.
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I'll play devil's advocate. They now have a clone and a limited number of straws since the original is sterile. Someone needs more money adds a few deposits and no one is the wiser...... a now seemingly never ending supply with the world being none the wiser.
If this was their intention, they would have been better off not telling the world he was infertile.

In the big scheme of things, cloning is too expensive to be likely to play a big role in horse breeding regardless of the quality of horse. Very few animals will actually end up being cloned.

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post #17 of 31 Old 07-23-2013, 10:10 PM
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What's the point then?

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I think you just blew my mind a little bit. I NEVER thought that telomeres could play a part in the cloning issue but it kind of makes sense. Time to email my Genetics instructor...

The telomere hypothesis of cellular aging most likely will play a big part in cloning. It might even throw a wrench into the wheel of cloning body parts. You clone my heart, it gets old fast. Bummer.
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What's the point then?
Good question.

1. To replicate a great horse
2. To study the science of the whole thing
3. To create a huge profit for the cloning industry
4. Maybe to let somebody hold on to a dream.....
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As a confirmed HERDA carrier who has produced more than his fair share of Hrd/Hrd foals, I was happy when they announced he was sterile. When you clone, the bad comes with the good.
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