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post #1 of 15 Old 02-20-2010, 09:04 PM Thread Starter
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I'm curious, I'm not here to start and argument of any sort, I just want your opinions. At what point would you consider a horse to be a hopeless cause?

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I would say as soon as he becomes a danger to me or people around me.

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post #3 of 15 Old 02-20-2010, 09:21 PM
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When he becomes a danger to himself or the people who care for him.

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I'm assuming this horse is considered a "problem" horse.....So I'll say that the when all efforts to correct the problems have failed, be they through training, medical attention and alternative therapies (like acupressure and herbal remedies) and its obvious that the horse is a danger to the people caring for it.
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When the **** thing is a chronic rearer!!!

But seriously, I am of the same opinion as others on this thread, I do not consider there to be any point in risking my own or other people's lives for a horse that is dangerous, both to himself and to other people. I'd rather put a bullet in it's head for it's own good, as well as other peoples. No matter how spectacular the horse, if I have exhausted all efforts, sent it to trainers and ensured there are no medical problem, if the horse continues on a dangerous and destructive path he will be gone.

A horse with dangerous problems costs just as much as a horse that is a pleasure to keep. I'm not going to waste my short time on this earth dealing with horses that stress and frustrate me, while also threatening to shorten my life span considerably.
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post #6 of 15 Old 02-20-2010, 09:32 PM Thread Starter
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ok, thanks that helps me out a lot.

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post #7 of 15 Old 02-20-2010, 09:59 PM
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When the horse is dangerous and has been too dangerous for too long to be retrained anymore without considerable safety risk. Very rare, but it happens.

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When you tried to the best of your ability to make things better..but nothin got better (or it got worse!)

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post #9 of 15 Old 02-21-2010, 12:21 AM
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Depending on the situation, I would declare a horse a "hopeless cause" when prof. training and medical care have failed, and the horse is a danger to everyone including himself.
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post #10 of 15 Old 02-21-2010, 09:25 AM
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Since I often work with problem horses, many of them dangerous, I haven't actually met a horse yet that I've considered a hopeless cause. I've come close a time or two, but thankfully I've always had the answer come to me at just that pivotal moment.

I think what's more important is knowing 'your' limitations. Knowing when you need help and doing all in your power to get that help before things get out of hand.

So far every horse problem I've encountered has turned out to have originated as a people problem, or a physical ailment, and therefore once you take away the people problem, or fix the ailment, the horse eventually turns around. Admittedly, this can take weeks, months or even years so you have to be committed and in it for the long haul.

There can be the rare case where the horse has some sort of neurological or chemical imbalance, but even for those individuals there are many things that can be tried.

If this is a simple case of you don't click with a horse, then there's really no sense trying to make the relationship work. Sell or give the horse to someone who suits that horse better. And don't feel defeated or down on yourself if you have to do it. View it as a learning experience and avoid making that mistake again. Be sure though to disclose all behavior issues to the new party.

I happen to love the challenge of a difficult horse. Those individuals have been my greatest teachers. There's not one experience, even the painful ones, that I would change. I do, however, understand that that's not for everyone, so don't keep living a frustrating situation because it helps neither of you.
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