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post #11 of 46 Old 08-16-2013, 02:56 PM
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I saw this pop up on the Chronicle and have been waiting for it to make its rounds on the forums. As of Tuesday, they had only seized 50 horses. Hopefully they can act quickly to remove the others.
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post #12 of 46 Old 08-16-2013, 03:32 PM
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Is is sickening and no matter where should not occur.

No doubt the plea will be that the owner sent the horses to Poland and never realised what was going on.

My answer to that is that he should.
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post #13 of 46 Old 08-16-2013, 03:37 PM
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And I really don't understand why. I could easily feed 20 horses over there what I spend for three here. There is NO excuse. Period.
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post #14 of 46 Old 08-16-2013, 04:00 PM
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I wonder what, if any, sanctions will be taken against the owner. Could they ban him from owning competitive horses?

Please note: I'm a neophyte when it comes to understanding the ins and outs of FEI, USET and all the high level organizations and rules and regs and whatnot. So hopefully this isn't too niave of a question.

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post #15 of 46 Old 08-16-2013, 04:12 PM Thread Starter
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You would expect that to happen really
The woman who owns the Red Lion Abattoir stood down or was asked to stand down from her BSJA position after the complaints there about ill treatment of horses
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post #16 of 46 Old 08-16-2013, 04:20 PM
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I couldn't watch more than 30 seconds of it. I got burned out on Animal Cops many years ago bc it made me well up and, at the same time, furious about the beastly behavior of these "unfit owners"--read that with any vulgarisms you see fit.
I laugh bc last summer I was feeding almost 70 animals. 61 were baby chicks and hens (+ 2 roosters.) The point is that we have to know our limits or EVERY animal we care for will suffer for it.
I have had elderly and hard keepers before. I drove by a farm today where I thought a horse was ill fed but I saw the obvious sway back and realized that it was an age issue bc the horse had to be past 30yo. He wasn't wasted away and incapable of rising, and his pasture friend was in good flesh.
During the Great Depression--not the current one--people out west had cattle that were wasting away and the government decided to shoot the herds and bury them, instead of their inevitable deaths.
You just want to either bring them hay or have a Vet put them down.
SO sad. I don't think that some of them are savable.
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post #17 of 46 Old 08-16-2013, 04:23 PM
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I wanted to add that horses really don't make much noise beyond a snort or a fart, and to walk in to a barn and have ANY horse whinny at you, a stranger, HAS to mean

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post #18 of 46 Old 08-16-2013, 04:23 PM
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Maybe I'm being a pessimist here but I expect it now. I've gotten to the point where I know it's somewhere and not going unpunished. It does catch me by surprise and makes me cringe but the more time I spend with people the more I realize that they suck.
It really doesn't shock me that it was found where it was. As others have stated before, showing is filled with it and the bigger the show the more it seems to be present. Winners get treated like gold until they lose, and then they're dog chow (just using it as an analogy but I'm sure others get my point).
I just hope that this guy gets what he deserves and suffers like his horses did. And I hope that the horses don't have to suffer any more than they already have.
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post #19 of 46 Old 08-16-2013, 04:56 PM
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This guy couldn't have been isolated. With 300 horses under his care there had to be workers or some other type of persons around who knew what was going on. Where were those people to speak up? Did they all quit at once or be fired?
Do the owners ever not see their horses or did he own all of them?
Can someone get so 'big' that others fear to speak ill them?
There is no excuse for this.
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post #20 of 46 Old 08-16-2013, 07:08 PM
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There is no excuse for what we saw on the video.

I just wonder what the rest of the story is? 300 horses in a place where acreages are relatively small, someone knew of the condition of these before... something doesn't add up.

And how do the remaining horses still have tails? The starved ones I've taken in chewed each others tails off. Had these been stalled and neglected?

And there was hay onsite.

Hope somebody keeps the rest of us informed as the story unfolds.
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